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Thread: Rally Sweden 2014
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27th December 2013, 21:31 #51
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Originally Posted by N.O.T
When we were with the kids in Austria a few years ago and they went ski shools, the instructors were all...... Brits and Danes!!! The typical ski instructor for you!!!!
And here we see a brit/ or greek person trying to learn the world on both winter and physics, and that is as it should be....
But just a few small examples to explain my point.
There will be many snowrallies in the Nordic countries that will be cancelled in the weeks to come. Why; slush conditions, and the club arranging it can not afford the repair of the smashed gravel roads. Rally Sweden is probably insured for that kind of slush-rally.
When I lived up north and drove snowmobiles and the snow came before the sub zero periode, we would be very wet and cold when crossing streams, rivers and lakes. Why, the snow acts like insulation towards the ground. It stops the water from freezing over for a long time.
We even used snow to showel it on the lower parts of the house, to make it warmer inside... A lot of air in dry snow.
So, for Rally Sweden that has jumped the saga of driving each stage two times, there is a huge difference of having 50-100 cm depth of hard-frozen ground under the snow/ice or just mud-slush. The first 3 cars will eat through the ice sole and down into the mud. Being number 77 on first run, or number 1 on run number 2 will be a challenge, especially in a 2wd car!
That is why it is important to have frost periode first, to avoid the mudhell it soon will become.
That physics lesson might seem strange, but is based on 50 seasons of more or less good winter. Some of these winter have been spent on learning UKs finest soldiers how to survive in winter conditions. Some times scaring them and the US Marines with scary stories of the exremely dangerous SnowSnake crwling the Norwegian snow banks during night night.....
So lets hope for a few cold weeks soon!
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27th December 2013, 21:54 #52
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Re: Rally Sweden 2014
blah blah blah and more pointless blah blah each and every year... just like the 4 year olds like to hear the same story before going to bed.
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27th December 2013, 22:33 #53
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Re: Rally Sweden 2014
N.O.T. - you should listen to Sulland whhat he tries to say:
Like the innuites have over 20 different words for snow of different kinds, there are maybe 20 ways of having the surface of a gravel winter road. Some of them are not good, as Sulland says. Even there is one meter snowbanks beside the roads.
Best way is frosty weather for a period then snow that will be packed by wheels from many vehicels. Then a period of temperature above zero, so that the packed snow can transform to ice, with following zerodegrees.
Now you have the surface saved and also preservable for warm weather for a couple of days (depending on humidity in the air).
After that just wait for more snow and the snowbanks will appear...
At the moment, no matter what, none of the above has appeared, six weeks before RS."Reis vas pät pat kaar vas kut"
Tommi Mäkinen, back in the years...
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27th December 2013, 23:18 #54
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27th December 2013, 23:26 #55
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Re: Rally Sweden 2014
We hope to be returning to Sweden again, pray for snow!
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28th December 2013, 10:15 #56
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Re: Rally Sweden 2014
Originally Posted by Simorally86"Die with memories, not with dreams" Scott McIsaac
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28th December 2013, 10:33 #57
Re: Rally Sweden 2014
The warm weather is expected to continue according to this article.
http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/article18084601.ab
However long term forecasts usually aren't that reliable.
Snow depth map:
http://www.smhi.se/vadret/vadret-i-sverige/snodjup...Funny how ev'rything was roses when we held on to the guns...
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28th December 2013, 12:35 #58
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Re: Rally Sweden 2014
Originally Posted by SubaruNorway
On the website of the rally i can see only the overall map....to see the single stage map, have i to buy the Rally Magazine?
Because i drawn all the stages on Google maps, but i can't see spectator points, parking etc......
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28th December 2013, 13:14 #59
Re: Rally Sweden 2014
Originally Posted by Simorally86
but the info is not as detailed as the info in the rally magazine....Funny how ev'rything was roses when we held on to the guns...
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28th December 2013, 15:32 #60
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Re: Rally Sweden 2014
Originally Posted by Simorally86
"Die with memories, not with dreams" Scott McIsaac
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after that YouTube channel with tons of old rallying videos was 'stopped', now its time for one rallycross YouTube channel to have the same end. https://youtube.com/@rallygreat2660?feature=shared...
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