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14th August 2013, 22:29 #1
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Non champions
Stirling Moss has frequently been described as "The greatest driver never to win the World Championship". Who do you consider ranks second? Or do you consider another driver deserves the title? Please explain your choice.
Duncan Rollo
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14th August 2013, 23:16 #2
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Originally Posted by D-Type
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14th August 2013, 23:20 #3
Gilles Villeneuve - words are superfluous, he was everything a racing driver should be.
Kris Meeke got fired -PSG so terrified they quit!
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15th August 2013, 00:45 #4
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I don't think by a longshot that Eddie Irvine was one of the greatest drivers never to win the World Championship but I do think that he was deliberately robbed of one.
In the 1999 Japanese GP, Coulthard played an excellent job of holding up Irvine and so Irvine finished well behind Hakkinen and Schumacher. Schumacher though, put his Ferrari on pole and had the fastest laps of the race and then for almost no observable reason, got to sight distance of Hakkinen and pushed no harder.
I think that Schumacher knew that had he won the GP, he would have stolen the points which Hakkinen would accrue. Irvine would have been the first World Champion for Ferrari in twenty years and not Schumacher, and he resented that deeply.
I suspect that Schumacher proved that the car was easily capable of winning the race but that he threw it for the reason above.The Old Republic was a stupidly run organisation which deserved to be taken over. All Hail Palpatine!
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15th August 2013, 14:27 #5
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Originally Posted by D-Type
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15th August 2013, 20:09 #6
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Didier Pironi.
He was looking like he was going to win the 82 championship. It took Rosberg three GP's to accrue more points.Q: What's worse than a Bully? A: His Sidekick
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15th August 2013, 23:47 #7Originally Posted by ParabolicaKris Meeke got fired -PSG so terrified they quit!
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16th August 2013, 06:06 #8
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Originally Posted by Mintexmemory
It was never correct to say that Pironi was responsible for the rash decision-making and the psychological weakness of Villenueve.
It was these that cost Villenueve both his life and any hopes of being considered a title-contender. I always agreed with Derek Warwicks assessment that Villenueve was too big a risk-taker. Exciting to watch, yes, but fundamentally flawed as a Grand Prix driver.Q: What's worse than a Bully? A: His Sidekick
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16th August 2013, 07:29 #9
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Originally Posted by RolloQ: What's worse than a Bully? A: His Sidekick
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16th August 2013, 08:18 #10Originally Posted by Parabolica
As for the opinions of Derek Warwick, maybe he never had that good a handle on what makes a winning Grand Prix driver? Maybe I'm being unnecessarily provocative. Maybe GV had psychological weaknesses but to quote Marx he wasn't a 'ferret-faced chiseller' (Groucho)Kris Meeke got fired -PSG so terrified they quit!
I guess they are still discussing. But I think it's high possibility it will be there, especialy now when Ireland fell out. Maybe they could spice things up and mix some stages with gravel. And...
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