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15th July 2013, 18:53 #91
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Originally Posted by vhatever
If you are a professor of criminal law and specifically Florida law, then you could comment. Since you are not spare me your pathetic judgements and excuse yourself from personal insults.
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15th July 2013, 18:59 #92
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Originally Posted by D-Type
I am going to pretend you are being serious and answer your question.
It is perfectly justifiable as a basic human right to defend oneself from bodily harm. When Martin jumped on George Zimmerman, knocking him down and then proceeded to drive his head into the pavement he waved any right to his life.
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15th July 2013, 19:29 #93
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Originally Posted by Spafranco
1) mis-characterizing
2) righteous indignation
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15th July 2013, 19:35 #94
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Originally Posted by Spafranco
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16th July 2013, 04:43 #95
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Definitely the right decision. Cue inevitable Al Sharpton race-baiting.
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16th July 2013, 05:49 #96
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Originally Posted by anthonyvop
You can't honestly say that Martins' attack wasn't provoked; mainly because apart from Martin and Zimmerman, there were no other witnesses. Therefore any remarks about this being "perfectly justifiable" or even a "proportionate response" are entirely conjecture because no-one apart from Martin and Zimmerman would know what the response was in proportion to. Zimmerman is a biased party and must be treated as an unreliable narrator and Martin is dead.
You do not know the circumstances which happened. Nobody apart from Martin and Zimmerman do. For that reason it is impossible for a prosecution to construct a case providing proof beyond reasonable doubt; why the jury delivered a not guilty verdict.The Old Republic was a stupidly run organisation which deserved to be taken over. All Hail Palpatine!
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16th July 2013, 05:59 #97
I don't have any problem with the right to defend yourself.
But then again, I still struggle to comprehend how Zimmerman got no conviction, while Marissa Alexander got 20 years in jail... go figure.
Fla. woman Marissa Alexander gets 20 years for "warning shot": Did she stand her ground? - Crimesider - CBS News
(CBS) - Last Friday, Jacksonville mother Marissa Alexander was sentenced by a Florida judge to 20 years in prison for firing what she says was a "warning shot" into the wall after a physical altercation with her husband, Rico Gray.
The case has set off yet another controversy involving the state's "stand your ground" law, which is under intense scrutiny after the shooting death of Trayvon Martin in February. Critics, including Congresswoman Corrine Brown (D-Fla.), are crying foul.
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16th July 2013, 11:59 #98
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Originally Posted by anthonyvop
If you think about it, the law created a situation whereby both people were quite entitled to do what they did and with predictable results.Rule 1 of the forum, always accuse anyone who disagrees with you of bias.I would say that though.
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16th July 2013, 12:02 #99
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Originally Posted by keysersozeRule 1 of the forum, always accuse anyone who disagrees with you of bias.I would say that though.
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16th July 2013, 12:55 #100
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Fortunately in the UK Neighbourhood Watch consists of old folk peeping round their net curtains and tutting a lot, not "standing their ground" by following unarmed teenagers about tooled up. And yet it's arguably more effective if you compare the crime rates of our respective countries.
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Nonsense indeed when you even yourself admit they cite other publications… I wish them well but at the moment I don’t see them adding any value writing the same articles but this is my problem ...
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