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    2013 Monaco Grand Prix Thread

    So its time for the glamour date in the F1 calender. Monte Carlo.

    I have to be honest, although many dont enjoy the sometimes processional racing at Monaco, it has always been one of my favorite races.
    Having been going through many Monaco Races over the last 25 years, I have noticed that you actually get more overtaking than most years at Barcelona for example, on top of that we see alot of tight battling. Plus the occasional crazy race when minnows score points.

    2013 Monaco GP, Monte Carlo

    23rd-26th May 2013

    78 Laps

    Drivers Championship after 5 Rounds
    1. Sebastian Vettel - 89 pts[/*:m:1fajb5qw]
    2. Kimi Raikkonen - 85 pts[/*:m:1fajb5qw]
    3. Fernando Alonso - 72 pts[/*:m:1fajb5qw]
    4. Lewis Hamilton - 50 pts[/*:m:1fajb5qw]
    5. Felipe Massa - 45 pts[/*:m:1fajb5qw]
    6. Mark Webber - 42 pts[/*:m:1fajb5qw]
    7. Romain Grosjean - 26 pts[/*:m:1fajb5qw]
    8. Paul di Resta - 26 pts[/*:m:1fajb5qw]
    9. Nico Rosberg - 22 pts[/*:m:1fajb5qw]
    10. Jenson Button - 17 pts[/*:m:1fajb5qw]
    11. Sergio Perez - 12 pts[/*:m:1fajb5qw]
    12. Daniel Ricciardo - 7 pts[/*:m:1fajb5qw]
    13. Adrian Sutil - 6 pts[/*:m:1fajb5qw]
    14. Nico Hulkenberg - 5 pts[/*:m:1fajb5qw]
    15. Jean Eric Vergne - 1 pt[/*:m:1fajb5qw]


    Constructors Championship after 5 Rounds
    1. Red Bull - 131 pts[/*:m:1fajb5qw]
    2. Ferrari - 117 pts[/*:m:1fajb5qw]
    3. Lotus - 111 pts[/*:m:1fajb5qw]
    4. Mercedes - 72 pts[/*:m:1fajb5qw]
    5. Force India - 32 pts[/*:m:1fajb5qw]
    6. Mclaren - 29 pts[/*:m:1fajb5qw]
    7. Toro Rosso - 8 pts[/*:m:1fajb5qw]
    8. Sauber - 5 pts[/*:m:1fajb5qw]



    Previous Winners - Since 1990
    1990- Senna
    1991- Senna
    1992- Senna
    1993- Senna
    1994- M. Schumacher
    1995- M. Schumacher
    1996- Panis
    1997- M. Schumacher
    1998- Hakkinen
    1999- M. Schumacher
    2000- Coulthard
    2001- M. Schumacher
    2002- Coulthard
    2003- Montoya
    2004- Trulli
    2005- Raikkonen
    2006- Alonso
    2007- Alonso
    2008- Hamilton
    2009- Button
    2010- Webber
    2011- Vettel
    2012- Webber


    Most Wins (Multiple Winners)
    Ayrton Senna - 6 wins
    Michael Schumaher - 5 wins
    Graham Hill - 5 wins
    Alain Prost 4 wins
    Stirling Moss - 3 wins
    Jackie Stewart - 3 wins
    Fangio - 2 wins
    Trintignant -2 wins
    Niki Lauda - 2 wins
    Coulthard - 2 wins
    Mark Webber - 2 wins
    Fernando Alonso - 2 wins
    Jody Scheckter - 2 wins

    * So no one of the currant class is likely to challenge Senna's amazing 6 wins, but Alonso and Webber could move level with two legends if either win this weekend
    Multiple Constructors Wins Including pre F1.
    Mclaren - 15 wins
    Ferrari - 9 wins
    Lotus - 7 wins
    BRM - 5 wins
    Bugatti - 4 wins
    Mercedes - 3 wins
    Alfa Romeo -3 wins
    Maserati - 3 wins
    Cooper - 3 wins
    Tyrell - 3 wins
    Williams - 3 wins
    Red Bull - 3 wins
    Brabham - 2 wins
    Benetton - 2 wins
    Renault - 2 wins

    * Wow Mclaren have had some success here, can Ferrari clam that 10th win.


    Even though I love the Monaco GP, I am going to miss this one and will have to watch it in the evening as I am going to Brands to watch some classic F1 and Pre F1 Grand Prix cars.
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    This will be an interesting.

    Mercedes will lock out the front row. And I do wonder how slow they will be in race trim.
    They might just bunch up the pack enough that there won't be any gap for a clean run following the first round of pit stops.

    Might have a few in the top 10 starting on prime tyres, which could work for Grosjean or Massa, with a podium in mind.

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    The pecking order at Monaco doesn't really need to be the same than at Barcelona. I guess that if there's any car with better traction than the others (perhaps Lotus and Ferrari? Anyway, it's a wild guess), they could have the advantage.

    We might see a few interesting strategies. Remember how Alonso could have won last year's race if he had stayed out for a lap longer while everyone struggled on cold new tyres?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koz
    Mercedes will lock out the front row. And I do wonder how slow they will be in race trim.
    Mercedes have an awesome car and that result wouldn't surprise me at all.

    Aside from fuel, what can be done to Parc Ferme cars that can be called "race trim"?

    I've been assuming that the Mercedes is needing to be loaded up with more fuel than the others and that is the reason for the relative differences from qualifying time to first lap time. Heavy car producing extra load and wear on tyres, etc.. Is that not correct?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koz
    This will be an interesting.

    Mercedes will lock out the front row. And I do wonder how slow they will be in race trim.
    They might just bunch up the pack enough that there won't be any gap for a clean run following the first round of pit stops.
    Monaco is very easy on tires, so Mercedes could really do well here. They have exceptional traction out of slow corners. Ferrari haven't won here in the last 12 tries, but safety car is likely (80% chance), so anything could happen.

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    I really don't have a clue what's going to happen.

    If Merc do their usual Qualifying blitz and the tyres hold up, then it could be enough but will they?

    Kimi and Fred could do very well and of course, either Bulls will be right up there with Mark always going well in the Principality. I have a feeling PdR will go well on Sunday as well but it's anyones guess.

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    I wouldn't bet against the bulls going by the form book. Hopefully, Marussia can get into Q2 and maybe Caterham scoring a point.
    Forza Jules! Forza Michael!

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    Quote Originally Posted by longisland
    I wouldn't bet against the bulls going by the form book. Hopefully, Marussia can get into Q2 and maybe Caterham scoring a point.
    Yes, which alternate reality are you from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranger
    On a side note:

    Don't tell me Nico has been replaced by Roscoe!!

    Or is Lewis sitting this one out?
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