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15th April 2013, 17:37 #31
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alonso had the best car in the field and didn't do anything spectacular. kimi went backwards at the start, both ferraris easily passed hamilton to be 1-2. after that alonso passed button -- who was on 20 lap old tyres -- and he passed vettel who was on a different strategy, in a much slower car and not wanting to lose time defending.
massa hasn't been near alonso's pace for three years. massa was about the same pace as kimi. if massa has shown his true pace in the last three years then that would mean alonso is a good half a second quicker than kimi.
wait, i can go further. hamilton matched alonso immediately in his first year of f1. i assume hamilton has improved since his first season (he was incredible in 2012 but had the worst luck on the grid). so if hamilton is faster than alonso then hamilton must be 0.6 or 0.7 of a second quicker than kimi. hamilton might be 0.2 of a second at most quicker than kimi.
the fact is santander pays all this money in a bad economy to have alonso on the top of the podium not massa.
or maybe alonso's just half a second a lap better than his competition. i find it hard to believe after getting beat by trulli in 04 and matched by a first year driver in 07. if he's half a second better than his rivals then surely he could have passed petrov in 2010???
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15th April 2013, 17:42 #32
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Originally Posted by N4D13.
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15th April 2013, 22:24 #33
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Originally Posted by faster69I still exist and still find the forum occasionally. Busy busy
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16th April 2013, 03:32 #34
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Originally Posted by henners88May the forza be with you
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16th April 2013, 03:42 #35Originally Posted by faster69Form is Temporary, Class is Permanent
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16th April 2013, 05:17 #36
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Massa has only one opponent: FA. I am sure that if he would be able to put his car in front of Fred's I bet any money he would race like we have never seen him before. But........since that doesn't happen really after he gives it a shot in passing FA for a couple of laps he realizes his chances to win the race are already over and then he just sits back and waits for the race to end waiting for a better chance at the next one. And that's how all those years at Ferrari went by..............
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16th April 2013, 10:42 #37
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Originally Posted by Mr Alca-Tazizzle
look what happened to trulli at renault when he was beating alonso in 04. look at singapore 08. whether alonso were part of these decisions or not, it shows that a team boss will go to enormous lengths to advantage alonso.
07 alonso was expecting to create manipulate the situation like he had at renault, but wasn't able to so he resorts to blackmailing ron dennis.
then you have now. who knows the exact details but santander aren't the title sponsor of ferrari to see massa on the top of the podium. alonso is no doubt quicker than even an 2006-2009 massa, but the difference over the last three seasons is greatly exaggerated.
at the end of the day, ferrari have put all the eggs in the alonso basket and in three seasons haven't got any closer to winning a championship than massa did, have only 5 wins since 2011, despite having a huge budget.
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16th April 2013, 15:52 #38
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Originally Posted by dj_bytedisaster
Stuck in crappy Moscow now until I head down to Kiev on the 19th and Budapest a few days after that and then back home.
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16th April 2013, 18:04 #39
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Alonso and Ricciardo impressed me the most.
Kimi, despite having car damage to due a blind mexican driver, was quite good too."signature room for rent"
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