2013 Malaysian Grand Prix Thread

[steveaki13]

Don't hold your breath, modern F1 fans have a memory that lasts about 60-70 laps.

Does my modern f1 memory tell me you quit F1 forum once.

Welcome Back though.

[wedge]

Again, not really the point I'm making.

Then could you be more specific. Driving standards? Aggressive manoeuvres? The lack of trust and respect?

[gloomyDAY]

Images of Alonso's Ferrari eating the front wing: http://imgur.com/a/jfFVI#2.

He already did, twice - Silverstone 2011 and Interlagos 2012.

Silverstone I can acknowledge, and Mark still came behind Vettel. I don't understand what happened at Brazil in 2012. Vettel spun and had to make up ground in order to have enough points for the WDC. How was Vettel's mistake Mark's fault?

[dj_bytedisaster]

Images of Alonso's Ferrari eating the front wing: Photo Album - Imgur.

Silverstone I can acknowledge, and Mark still came behind Vettel. I don't understand what happened at Brazil in 2012. Vettel spun and had to make up ground in order to have enough points for the WDC. How was Vettel's mistake Mark's fault?

He was asked to help Vettel, but instead almost boxed him in at the start and later in the race he was ordered to give way, but didn't, so the team had to call him into the pits to get him out of the way. As I said, Vettel's move was wrong on many levels, but Mark is the last one with a right to complain. He isn't exactly a team player either.

[kfzmeister]

About the best thing that could come out of this RB spat, is some sort of self destructive behavior in the coming races on Vettels part. I mean how exciting if one or both RB's crashed today in the last few laps (Turkey anyone??).
I know a guy that might benefit from that this year and secure his 3rd Title

[AJP]

Marko didn't have anything to do with it. In fact he was quite po'ed about Vettel, which must be a first.

If that's the case, then I'm shocked!

[steveaki13]

In response to Webber in Brazil 2012, it is hard to judge things like blocking in at the start of a race, as a driver is concentrating on all aspects of an F1 start and it wasn't so dangerous to the point of making Vettel take avoiding action. It was just a bit close.

As for the later incident that could be true, but even in late 2012 he had been move out the way and treated badly many times so he was probably already pretty unwilling to help.

I dont think these two drivers ever really got on, probably since Fuji in 2007.

I thought it was fair enough if Seb wants to play it that way, just dont make a stupid, stomach churning apology. Also from Marks Point of View if he has disobeyed team orders before then he should expect nothing better.

Then it becomes an issue of how Red Bull control this situation going forward

[gloomyDAY]

2-lap onboard footage with Vettel and Webber.

F1 2013 - R02 - Vettel vs Webber battle onboard Sepang - YouTube

[Tazio]

tareup: That really was a good dice. It's a shame it is shrouded in controversy.

[gloomyDAY]

tareup: That really was a good dice. It's a shame it is shrouded in controversy.

Yeah, I just wish Webber pushed Vettel out at that last bout. Instead we just saw Webber get emasculated on-track.