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8th March 2013, 22:25 #1
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2013 Australian Grand Prix Official Thread
Right then you lot. I am excited for the start of the new season.
So I reckon we are all ready to launch the first Race Thread of the season.
With less than a week until Friday Practice begins, I present the start of our Race discussion.
Australian GP 2013: Albert Park, Melbourne.
15th-17th March.
58 Laps
Previous Winners at Albert Park:
1996: Damon Hill - Williams
1997: David Coulthard - Mclaren
1998: Mika Hakkinen - Mclaren
1999: Eddie Irvine - Ferrari
2000: Michael Schumacher - Ferrari
2001: Michael Schumacher - Ferrari
2002: Michael Schumacher - Ferrari
2003: David Coulthard - Mclaren
2004: Michael Schumacher - Ferrari
2005: Giancarlo Fisichella - Renault
2006: Fernando Alonso - Mclaren
2007: Kimi Raikkonen - Ferrari
2008: Lewis Hamilton - Mclaren
2009: Jenson Button - Brawn
2010: Jenson Button - Mclaren
2011: Sebastian Vettel - Red Bull
2012: Jenson Button - Mclaren
Michael Schumacher 4 Wins
Jenson Button 3 Wins
David Coulthard 2 Wins
Damon Hill 1 Win
Mika Hakkinen 1 Win
Eddie Irvine 1 Win
Giancarlo Fisichella 1 Win
Fernando Alonso 1 Win
Kimi Raikkonen 1 Win
Lewis Hamilton 1 Win
Sebastian Vettel 1 Win
Ferrari 6 Wins
Mclaren 6 Wins
Renault 2 Wins
Brawn 1 Win
Red Bull 1 Win
Williams 1 Win
* So looking at these stats Jenson Button owns this place as no one else on the Grid has won it twice.
While its interesting that Ferrari & Mclaren each have 6 wins.
Also out of the 17 races at Albert Park, 11 of the winners went on to win the title, with 6 not doing so.
Driver Line Ups:
Red Bull: Sebastian Vettel and Mark Webber
Ferrari: Fernando Alonso and Felipe Massa
Mclaren: Jenson Button and Sergio Perez
Lotus: Kimi Raikkonen and Romain Grosjean
Mercedes: Lewis Hamilton and Nico Rosberg
Sauber: Nico Hulkenberg and Esteban Gutierrez
Force India: Paul di Resta and Adrian Sutil
Williams: Pastor Maldonado and Valtterri Bottas
Toro Rosso: Daniel Ricciardo and Jean Eric Vergne
Caterham: Charles Pic and Eric Van der Garde
Marussia: Max Chilton and Jules Bianchi.
* 5 Rookies for 2013.
So hope you enjoyed this little intro.
Now its time to get discussing the issues for the start of F1 2013.I still exist and still find the forum occasionally. Busy busy
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8th March 2013, 22:36 #2
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I have a slight fancy that Jenson might keep his currant domination of Albert Park going.
I think Mclaren might have a decent car to start the season with.
I hope to see the Caterham & Marussia make a good start to 2013 and show some progress.
What do the rest of you think?I still exist and still find the forum occasionally. Busy busy
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8th March 2013, 23:11 #3
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I think Lotus wil do good on this type of track, semi street circuit.
/bet all Kimi
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9th March 2013, 00:08 #4
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WOOOOOO this track has been dominated by the Brits!
II think it will be a German who wins this year I'm going for Vettel!
What's the chances of rain this year the Aussie weather is always unpredictableSupporting the British Drivers all over the world!!!
BRITISH POWER!!!!!!!
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9th March 2013, 01:28 #5
I'm rooting for Lewis but think it will more likely be Fernando.
Only a few more days to wait and we'll get an indication of how fast the 2013 cars really are...
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9th March 2013, 18:24 #6
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Initial long term weather on the BBC, suggests a cloudy weekend with a few spots of rain.
So not a storm thus far, so hopefully we get a race so we can judge the new cars.I still exist and still find the forum occasionally. Busy busy
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9th March 2013, 18:50 #7
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Originally Posted by steveaki13
Sadly, I don't have much hope for Marussia or Caterham to score points. If even one of Kovalainen, Petrov or Glock had been retained there might have been a chance. If it's true that even 1 or both Toro Rosso drivers can average 1sec or less off the pace this year (Ric and Ver were +1.4 and +1.8sec average in 2012), then the bottom teams have a massive gap to make up - probably too big sadly...
In 2012, Caterham and Marussia averaged this in qualifying
Kovalainen +2.9sec
Petrov +3.2sec
Glock +4.1sec
Pic +4.5sec
I expect a 2nd season Pic would not get above 3.2 or 3.3sec if the 2013 Pic drove the 2012 Caterham. Van der Garde will probably be about 6 tenths or so off Pic this year.
As for Marussia, I guess Bianchi will perform at a similar level to Pic last year. Chilton may be slightly slower but I hear he's a pretty fast qualifier.
So Bianchi in 2012 would average about 4.5sec off as Pic did. This means Marussia need to make up AT LEAST 2sec to be able to have a chance of points. I hear KERS is worth 0.4sec, and the fully windtunnel developed car (with McLaren resources and Pat Symonds full time) should be worth a chunk. I'm not sure it will be enough this year though, especially with the low funds (no development).
I think all of them are going to have to average no slower than 2.5sec over the whole season to even have a chance of scoring points on pace (which looks unlikely)...
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9th March 2013, 19:39 #8
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I'm putting a fiver on Lewis each way
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9th March 2013, 21:18 #9
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Originally Posted by rjbetty
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9th March 2013, 21:50 #10
We'll soon find out who's been sandbagging during the tests...Kimi? Pastor? Sebastian?
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