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    2013 Australian Grand Prix Official Thread

    Right then you lot. I am excited for the start of the new season.

    So I reckon we are all ready to launch the first Race Thread of the season.

    With less than a week until Friday Practice begins, I present the start of our Race discussion.


    Australian GP 2013: Albert Park, Melbourne.

    15th-17th March.

    58 Laps

    Previous Winners at Albert Park:

    1996: Damon Hill - Williams
    1997: David Coulthard - Mclaren
    1998: Mika Hakkinen - Mclaren
    1999: Eddie Irvine - Ferrari
    2000: Michael Schumacher - Ferrari
    2001: Michael Schumacher - Ferrari
    2002: Michael Schumacher - Ferrari
    2003: David Coulthard - Mclaren
    2004: Michael Schumacher - Ferrari
    2005: Giancarlo Fisichella - Renault
    2006: Fernando Alonso - Mclaren
    2007: Kimi Raikkonen - Ferrari
    2008: Lewis Hamilton - Mclaren
    2009: Jenson Button - Brawn
    2010: Jenson Button - Mclaren
    2011: Sebastian Vettel - Red Bull
    2012: Jenson Button - Mclaren

    Michael Schumacher 4 Wins
    Jenson Button 3 Wins
    David Coulthard 2 Wins
    Damon Hill 1 Win
    Mika Hakkinen 1 Win
    Eddie Irvine 1 Win
    Giancarlo Fisichella 1 Win
    Fernando Alonso 1 Win
    Kimi Raikkonen 1 Win
    Lewis Hamilton 1 Win
    Sebastian Vettel 1 Win

    Ferrari 6 Wins
    Mclaren 6 Wins
    Renault 2 Wins
    Brawn 1 Win
    Red Bull 1 Win
    Williams 1 Win


    * So looking at these stats Jenson Button owns this place as no one else on the Grid has won it twice.

    While its interesting that Ferrari & Mclaren each have 6 wins.

    Also out of the 17 races at Albert Park, 11 of the winners went on to win the title, with 6 not doing so.

    Driver Line Ups:

    Red Bull: Sebastian Vettel and Mark Webber
    Ferrari: Fernando Alonso and Felipe Massa
    Mclaren: Jenson Button and Sergio Perez
    Lotus: Kimi Raikkonen and Romain Grosjean
    Mercedes: Lewis Hamilton and Nico Rosberg
    Sauber: Nico Hulkenberg and Esteban Gutierrez
    Force India: Paul di Resta and Adrian Sutil
    Williams: Pastor Maldonado and Valtterri Bottas
    Toro Rosso: Daniel Ricciardo and Jean Eric Vergne
    Caterham: Charles Pic and Eric Van der Garde
    Marussia: Max Chilton and Jules Bianchi.

    * 5 Rookies for 2013.


    So hope you enjoyed this little intro.

    Now its time to get discussing the issues for the start of F1 2013.
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    I have a slight fancy that Jenson might keep his currant domination of Albert Park going.

    I think Mclaren might have a decent car to start the season with.

    I hope to see the Caterham & Marussia make a good start to 2013 and show some progress.


    What do the rest of you think?
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    I think Lotus wil do good on this type of track, semi street circuit.
    /bet all Kimi

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    WOOOOOO this track has been dominated by the Brits!
    II think it will be a German who wins this year I'm going for Vettel!
    What's the chances of rain this year the Aussie weather is always unpredictable
    Supporting the British Drivers all over the world!!!
    BRITISH POWER!!!!!!!

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    I'm rooting for Lewis but think it will more likely be Fernando.

    Only a few more days to wait and we'll get an indication of how fast the 2013 cars really are...

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    Initial long term weather on the BBC, suggests a cloudy weekend with a few spots of rain.

    So not a storm thus far, so hopefully we get a race so we can judge the new cars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by steveaki13
    I have a slight fancy that Jenson might keep his currant domination of Albert Park going.

    I think Mclaren might have a decent car to start the season with.

    I hope to see the Caterham & Marussia make a good start to 2013 and show some progress.


    What do the rest of you think?
    You know what, I don't really have much idea! I'm not so sure Red Bull are going to run away with it, but they might just be playing a very clever game, lulling everyone into a false sense of security.

    Sadly, I don't have much hope for Marussia or Caterham to score points. If even one of Kovalainen, Petrov or Glock had been retained there might have been a chance. If it's true that even 1 or both Toro Rosso drivers can average 1sec or less off the pace this year (Ric and Ver were +1.4 and +1.8sec average in 2012), then the bottom teams have a massive gap to make up - probably too big sadly...

    In 2012, Caterham and Marussia averaged this in qualifying

    Kovalainen +2.9sec
    Petrov +3.2sec
    Glock +4.1sec
    Pic +4.5sec

    I expect a 2nd season Pic would not get above 3.2 or 3.3sec if the 2013 Pic drove the 2012 Caterham. Van der Garde will probably be about 6 tenths or so off Pic this year.

    As for Marussia, I guess Bianchi will perform at a similar level to Pic last year. Chilton may be slightly slower but I hear he's a pretty fast qualifier.

    So Bianchi in 2012 would average about 4.5sec off as Pic did. This means Marussia need to make up AT LEAST 2sec to be able to have a chance of points. I hear KERS is worth 0.4sec, and the fully windtunnel developed car (with McLaren resources and Pat Symonds full time) should be worth a chunk. I'm not sure it will be enough this year though, especially with the low funds (no development).

    I think all of them are going to have to average no slower than 2.5sec over the whole season to even have a chance of scoring points on pace (which looks unlikely)...


    Great intro by the way.
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    I'm putting a fiver on Lewis each way

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    Quote Originally Posted by rjbetty
    Great intro by the way.
    Thanks

    It was a bit early but I was ready
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    We'll soon find out who's been sandbagging during the tests...Kimi? Pastor? Sebastian?

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