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12th February 2013, 19:09 #11
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One thing that taints the sport sadly are the deaths in F1.
When deaths occur people question F1 and whether its too dangerous and hurts F1 for a time, however from that F1 grows and evolves to improve safety and comes out of the darkness stronger, while remembering those heros who have perished.I still exist and still find the forum occasionally. Busy busy
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12th February 2013, 20:23 #12
Michael Schumacher's chopping of DH and JV.
Flavio.
Max Mosley.
Spygate.
Crashgate.
Liargate.
The selection/blackmail of the new F1 teams.
The amount of pay drivers in F1 and the many drivers deserving a seat sitting out.
DRS.
HRT. USGP.
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12th February 2013, 20:42 #13
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Didn't Lewis admit he lied though? Didn't he reaslise he'd done the wrong thing and told the truth to make amends. I think he was pressured into lying. He couldn't live with it so went back and told the truth.
So he did the right thing. We've all done things wrong, especially when others have pressures/bullied us. But he went to make amends? Isn't that how it went?
I think Lewis haters (people bitter that he outperformed Alonso - as a rookie!!!) jump on this and make him out to be an evil person.
Fernando Alonso knows a thing or two about lying, especially in the press conference after Hockenheim 2010! Not to mention crashgate probably.SPAM - Going off topic to give you the deals you don't want.
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12th February 2013, 21:09 #14
I didn't mention Lewis specifically, did I?
I just feel that it was one of the moments tainted the sport.
Nor do I think Lewis is an evil person, an idiot sometimes, but in no way a bad guy.
However, I will add Piquet, Jr. did taint the sport, whether coerced by Flavio or not. He should have received a ban like Flavio.
I agree about Alonso, I am amazed that people forget about his involvement in Crashgate and most certainly Spygate. Teflonso...
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12th February 2013, 23:39 #15
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Originally Posted by Koz
Without Fernando whistle-blowing on the McLaren cheaters it would have been nigh impossible for FIA to convict the cheaters at McLaren as the first WMSC hearing proved.
Without Nelsinho's testimony it would have been impossible to nail Briatore and Symonds.
Also he confirmed that Alonso was not complicit to Crashgate.tifosigirl
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13th February 2013, 00:09 #16
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Originally Posted by Koz
I had in mind a lot of fans in general and just stuff I've read when I said that.SPAM - Going off topic to give you the deals you don't want.
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13th February 2013, 01:04 #17
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Some punishments never fitted the crime.
Schumi should have been, at the very least, banned for a few races at the start of the 2000 season and not a slap on the wrist ie. disqualified from 1999 WDC.
Considering that McLaren were able to fight for 2007 WDC then it is only right that as a compromise that they should not be able to score points in 2008 WCC. In 2008 McLaren were supposed to be garaging with the tail-enders but Bernie caved in and moved them admist the midfield to make it a bit more appealing to the prawn sarnie brigade.
Originally Posted by Knock-on
Benetton were cleared in 1994 of using TC despite a feud that turned into a witchhunt between Max Mosley and Flavio Briatore/Benetton.
It's been said that every car is illegal - the authorities don't know where to find it after all the team's are always looking to keep a step ahead of those of police the rules.
I would argue that electronics and software management (or whatever the correct term is) tainted the sport in the 1990s. It's a complex piece of kit which in practice is very tough to police. For instance the most common assertion of utilising TC came from fuel management. It got to the point in the late 90s that it was an open secret that pretty much every car had TC of some form which is why TC became legal because the FIA admitted defeat.The world according to Taki Inoue: https://mobile.twitter.com/takiinoue/st ... 7249326080
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13th February 2013, 05:31 #18Originally Posted by Natalie.S
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13th February 2013, 08:25 #19
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Originally Posted by Koz
I think what is key in both those cases is the fact both the whistle blowers i.e Alonso and Piquet were happy to cheat until it didn't suit their positions. Nelson approached the FIA after it seemed his career at Renault was over and Alonso didn't come forward officially at all. Ron Dennis called his bluff after an attempt from Alonso to blackmail the team backfired. Both Alonso and Piquet took to the witness stand and both affectively escaped punishment apart from a damaged public image. Its very easy to applaud these drivers for their help in convicting their employers, but both were corrupt enough to cheat in the first place. Alonso unlike Piquet has managed to recover most of his reputation and established himself as a very mature driver since however..
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13th February 2013, 08:47 #20
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