Rally Discussion and Bar Talk Thread

[onemanband]

So M+S means different things in different countries in Europe?

Studded tyres when driving 2WD. Studless on 4WD and mainly driving on main roads, maybe also for 2WD..

As far as I know, M+S doesn't mean much legally - they don't have to go through tests meant for ice-snow while M+S marked with the arctic badge (a silouette of a mountain with 3 peaks with a snowflake inside) do. I haven't seen any other marking on the tires that would indicate the softness or optimal working temperature.

[dupanton]

Daniel Elena finished in an excellent 6th overall (on 327 starters!) in the Monte Carlo Historique, a regularity rally for oldtimers.

[itix]

Daniel Elena finished in an excellent 6th overall (on 327 starters!) in the Monte Carlo Historique, a regularity rally for oldtimers.

If you're sitting next to an ultra champ for so many years you're bound to pick something up!

[Rallyper]

It was regularity. Average speed of maybe 50 km/h. However hard to keep in the alps. But still.

[dupanton]

It was regularity. Average speed of maybe 50 km/h. However hard to keep in the alps. But still.

I know how hard it is to stick to the average on twisty roads. Of course the codriver is more important here, but still, you can't make the slightest error in the Monte or you loose 50 places!

[Sulland]

So M+S means different things in different countries in Europe?

Studded tyres when driving 2WD. Studless on 4WD and mainly driving on main roads, maybe also for 2WD..

Explanation from Goodyear
http://www.goodyear.eu/corporate_eme...ed-picture.jsp

A genaral explanation;
For Central Europe most drive on summer tyres year round.For those that live at high altitude, they mostly use M+S or non studded winter tyres.
In North Europe we either use Studded winter tyres, or friction tyres. Both have much lower shore value (hardness scala) values, to keep them from getting stiff in minus 20-30 C. In some countries you need to have winter tyres after a given date, and take them off again before a certain date. Espacially since the studded tires make the asphalt wear off much more.

[omer yetis]

Off topic but looking for help....

Will be visiting New Zealand next week and planning to visit those amazing stages used during 2012 WRC
I was wondering if there is any chance for me to rent an Impreza WRX or an Evo, Road car around auckland for a day or two
would much appreciated any feedbacks

and love to hear more suggestions of yours about the stages and possible sight seeing places around.

thanks in advance

best
Omer

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