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23rd March 2013, 07:58 #51
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You guys follow off road rallys, too, or just gravel?
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23rd March 2013, 10:41 #52
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24th March 2013, 22:20 #53
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Originally Posted by oerigh
The obsession with manufacturers, TV time and David Richards are what killed it. In my opinion you don't need any manufacturers per se, people will always want to take part and will always fins something to drive. Works teams follow when manufacturers realize the value of being seen by a million or so road side fans. I'd ban 4wd and allow something similar to a Group 4/A/N hybrid of modification rules and have a standard production class underneath where its cheap to turn up. Then stand by and watch the next generation of French, Finnish and Swedish drivers come through. There are no drivers because nobody can afford a car! Then you bring back the classic events, in their classic forms and we are back to being somewhere again!!!
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24th March 2013, 22:53 #54
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Originally Posted by oerigh
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24th March 2013, 23:30 #55
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People say that the sport had to move with the times; Endurance is no longer fashionable.
Explain that to the organisers of Sebring 12 Hours, Le Mans 24 Hours, Nurburgring 24 Hours, Spa 24 Hours, Petit Le Mans, etc all get massive crowds, and Manufacturer support.
WRC went down the wrong path with the identikit events....but we've been saying that for too long now. The event organisers don't really want to change.
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25th March 2013, 00:04 #56
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25th March 2013, 00:26 #57
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Lets be realistic, the romantic Rally times were long ago. But there is small progress last and this year with longer Rallies than recent years, that's good. As for the drivers there are some young talanted at the moment, but I don't see any of them beating Ogier this year for the title. But may be in some Rallies.... Probably only Latvala can do it with speed anyway
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25th March 2013, 08:33 #58
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I do remember reading recently that apart from Loeb & Ogier – the rest weren’t up to it as World class drivers. The problem is that too many in the sport are blinkered, and can’t see it from an outsiders viewpoint. Of the FIA World series – only the WTCC has less talent.
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25th March 2013, 09:56 #59
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I could live with the shorter rallies if they didn't repeat the stages so much and the cars were good, and likewise I could live with the cars if the rallies were good, but as it stands there is not much to like. Loeb's stats are an irrelavance to me. He dominated after all the greats of the turn of the century either retired or passed away and has never had to deal with local specialists, because they don't exist anymore, or endurance events, because they don't either. Winning in Finland against Hirvonen and Latvala is one thing, winning in Finland against Mikkola, Alen, Kankunnen, Salonen, Vatanen, Airrikala, Blomqvist and the like, like anyone had to in the 80's, is something else entirely. Winning a tarmac rally against a load of gravel specialists and rich kids is one thing, beating Auriol, Saby, Loubet, Delecour, Bugalski, Chatriot, Ragnotti, Beguin, Biasion, Cunico, Cerrato and whoever else, or before that Munari, Nicolas, Therier, Andruet and Darniche is again a different game. And that's before we talk about the Safari. I'm not saying Loeb wasn't good, and wouldn't have done well against previous era's drivers, just that he was never tested.
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25th March 2013, 10:19 #60
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Would cordoba wrc had better results if somebody like C.McRae drove it at that time?!
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