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    Quote Originally Posted by Rally Power View Post
    ’08 recession effects appeared a bit later in Europe. If you see those numbers, sales decline started in 2011 and there’s a huge drop in 2012 (the years Pug leaved LeMans and Ford quit WRC) and only last year they’ve managed to get over 3M units again.
    That's interesting.
    I knew about 1 year gap to see effects in an economic environment after a certain change.
    Maybe in the automotive industry it's different. Yes there is a drop in 2012. (or was it Loeb announcing the retirement? I'm kidding )
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rally Power View Post

    The Quattro wasn’t a best seller but it did wonders for Audi image all over the world.
    Audi quattro was 2nd most expensive car in Finland at early 80´s, you can´t compare it to "normal" cars. (most expensive was Mercedes 560 SEC)
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    Quote Originally Posted by N.O.T View Post
    are you like that in real life as well ??
    Jesus NOT, you’re acting as a sociopath. We’re having a friendly conversation, there’s no need to insult anyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rally Power View Post
    Jesus NOT, you’re acting as a sociopath. We’re having a friendly conversation, there’s no need to insult anyone.
    We all are reading happily the forum, until someone decides to quote obvious troll stupidity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AL14 View Post
    That's interesting.
    I knew about 1 year gap to see effects in an economic environment after a certain change.
    Maybe in the automotive industry it's different. Yes there is a drop in 2012. (or was it Loeb announcing the retirement? I'm kidding )
    Actually the car market isn’t that resilient, but Europe’s recession was felt more deeply from 2010, with the debts crisis and the speculation over the euro. Btw, you joked about Loeb but in part you’re right: Loeb did a lot for Citroen sales. He’s still more popular in France than Ogier, mainly because he managed to be champ in a French manu car and they’ve always saw VW as a threat to their car industry!

    Quote Originally Posted by pantealex View Post
    Audi quattro was 2nd most expensive car in Finland at early 80´s, you can´t compare it to "normal" cars. (most expensive was Mercedes 560 SEC)
    I wasn’t clear enough: the Quattro was never meant to be a best seller but at the time it was launched Audi’s premium image was far from being consolidated. Quattro’s WRC success was a major contribution to the brand image upgrade.

    But probably the most noticeable story (a real case study) of a production and WRC winner was the 205: http://jalopnik.com/the-peugeot-205-...age-1587233177
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    Looking at those PSA figures, albeit that they include Peugeot, they are fairly consistent. I dont see any evidence that their WRC success had any noticable effect on sales.

    With low sales marques like Audi (back in the day) and Subaru, I can understand using WRC to boost their image (and sales), but the mainstream ones I sadly cant see them gaining much at all.

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    I heard that there is a rule about the number of chassis team can use per season. Can someone explain me how it really is?
    Is it just for the cars nominated for team points or is it for all of the cars team enters?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allar View Post
    I heard that there is a rule about the number of chassis team can use per season. Can someone explain me how it really is?
    Is it just for the cars nominated for team points or is it for all of the cars team enters?
    It can´t be for all cars (ford have more cars than others in every rally)
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    Rauno Aaltonen. 50 years ago but once more. Video in English.

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