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    Quote Originally Posted by dupanton View Post
    Fixed 4) for you
    lol that's right. thanks mate

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barreis View Post
    So maybe it's time for a little poll. How many offs this season will have:
    a)Latvala
    a)Meeke
    c)Neuville
    c)Tanak
    e)others??
    a) less than usual; no real pressure for him this season.
    b) same as usual; on the podium or in the ditch.
    c) zero? after '16 the Belgium is once more on top form.
    d) a lot, not easy to have ogier as a team mate.
    e) not hard to predict that Bertelli, Prokop, Al Qassimi and others second level drivers will be off most of the time. '17 cars are wild beasts and should be for top drivers hands only!
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    I expect more issues for Ogier considering that M-Sport cars have not been known for their tank-like reliability as VW was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Franky View Post
    I expect more issues for Ogier considering that M-Sport cars have not been known for their tank-like reliability as VW was.
    Thats a fair point, as well as the general mechanical reliability of the VW we've seen Ogier get away with quite a few moments in the last couple of seasons that might have stopped some of the other cars - big cuts or running wide and clipping rocks, ditches etc without taking serious damage. I don't think he will be able to take as many of those chances with the new Fiesta.

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    On the other hand we have seen Jari Matti breaking the car at times where Ogier have gotten away with doing the same

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    Quote Originally Posted by SubaruNorway View Post
    Well... The Belgian federation wanted to get rid of the WRC cars, in favor of the R5/S2000 cars and the national importers who wanted to use rallying as a marketing tool (see Peugeot Belux, Citroën Belux and Skoda Belgium). We've had many years with WRC cars allowed, but in many years we had only one or two top drivers with top machinery. There wasn't enough competition in the championship as there weren't much drivers with similar machinery. On the other hand spectators like WRC cars, and many organizers of national events protested against it, as they feared losing spectators (so losing income). In the end the federation made up some crazy rules to somehow keep the competition for the championship between R5 cars, and still allow the WRC cars:
    - 2.0L WRC cars can still be driven, but not by drivers who have won national or international events in the last 3 years, and not by drivers who claimed a national or international title in the last 5 years...
    - 1.6L WRC can still be driven but with a smaller restrictor (so basically it's an RRC with bigger spoiler).

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    And as Van Woensel won an event last year, he can't drive his car in the national championship anymore.

    They should have banned all WRCs from the championship a few years ago. Now they picked some half (typical Belgian) "solution", only creating more problems

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    I would like to propose a toast to Mintexmemory for creating the "Crystal Ball Time for 2017" thread, great entertainment value.
    Best prediction so far is number 5 prediction from Sollitt
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    Missing Jan Vanvurpa and NOT doing their crystal ball Time for 2017. And want a proper Pickems to be started ASAP.
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