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    I'm hoping to do Portugal next year, though I keep meeting Finnish people who tell me their rally is the best. Perhaps some kind of cosmic hint? My wallet may well decide the outcome though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Franky View Post
    How do they count spectators on free to attend events?
    by lying...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinu13 View Post
    I'm hoping to do Portugal next year, though I keep meeting Finnish people who tell me their rally is the best. Perhaps some kind of cosmic hint? My wallet may well decide the outcome though
    The Finns aren't lying... I haven't been in Portugal since it moved North, but I'm sure no other event in Europe will beat Finland in terms of spectacle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by N.O.T View Post
    by lying...
    Or let's put it more politely, guessing. But you as the almighty god must know how many souls there were on the Portuguese rally stages. Can you give us the exact number?
    Never stop dreaming because one day it might happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Franky View Post
    How do they count spectators on free to attend events? With other events you can use the statistics of sold tickets and rally passes, but free events ... impossible.
    In Portugal, Argentina, Mexico, France, Spain, Italy and in all other countries where you can spectate for free, crowd numbers aren’t made up, they’re calculated by police forces or civil protection authorities, as those are trained to do it. For sure they aren’t exact figures, like the ones of a ticket selling (btw, in that case fraud can also exist), but they’re still a pretty fair indication.

    At Rally de Portugal case, the crowd enthusiasm has become its main asset. The move to the North was asked by Todt and Mouton, despite some safety risks. Portuguese public has managed to respond in a fantastic way and we can now proudly say that besides having the biggest crowds we also have impeccable spectator’s behavior. Many other countries can hardly say the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tolx View Post
    I will go through those threads once again for sure. But realistically, how many stages could be seen per day? And what about nightstay location?
    Would like to book that as soon as possible.
    Portugal has the traditional 3stagesx2passes format. Without a motorbike it gets complicated trying to see stage 1 and 3 from each loop, as access roads are packed and you’ll have to spend a long time walking. In the current format you can realistically see 2 stages per day, plus Thursday SS (Lousada), Friday street stage and Thusrday morning fantastic Shakedown (Baltar).

    Still, as ’18 route isn’t yet known, we can hope for a change into a 4x2 layout and Porto street stage return. For accommodation, Braga is a good option and so it’s Guimarães (world heritage town), a bit closer to Fafe stages and to Porto/Matosinhos headquarters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rally Power View Post
    In Portugal, Argentina, Mexico, France, Spain, Italy and in all other countries where you can spectate for free, crowd numbers aren’t made up, they’re calculated by police forces or civil protection authorities, as those are trained to do it. For sure they aren’t exact figures, like the ones of a ticket selling (btw, in that case fraud can also exist), but they’re still a pretty fair indication.
    Yes but do they use the numbers provided by the authorities or the numbers provided by the organisers? Considering the source I think it is the organisers number. And then you need to know how are these numbers calculated? Stage by Stage, or Day by Day or the the whole weekend together?

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    Ken Block's Hoonigan Team raced Rhys Millen and Sara Price in Two Fiat Abarth at some Hillclimb in Mexico these days.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohY7Sn4qmlY

    Imagine that Abarth in WRC * ___ * haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by giu canbera View Post
    Ken Block's Hoonigan Team raced Rhys Millen and Sara Price in Two Fiat Abarth at some Hillclimb in Mexico these days.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohY7Sn4qmlY

    Imagine that Abarth in WRC * ___ * haha
    They already are in r-GT class

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norm75 View Post
    They already are in r-GT class
    That class could be more alive.. Then you only see sometime Porsche and that's it. And these guys at Fiat talks with big mouth how they would compete and show only on one event... And even there almost all crash... Alpine bring that beast into the game. Toyota too.

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