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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    http://mmuk.realviewdigital.com/?iid=154760#folio=40

    This states that Citroen used complete Ohlins dampers in Finland for the first time. Instead of their own?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4axn5CSG0Q
    In this video, only the front dampers have gold reservoirs, the rear reservoirs appear very similar to the DS3 WRC's. But this doesn't mean they aren't Öhlins of course.

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVzk...ature=youtu.be

    Defiantly feels are if there are getting the marketing dept behind this.

    Back slapping exercise in how good the car in on tarmac.

    They will never put him in a car for remaining rallies for 2017, cause the gravel will not suit that car.

    They would only 'risk' bringing Loeb back for Monte 2018.

    Also making a big deal of test, but also cancelling proper development proper makes no sense.

    I'd really like Meeke is have a good result in Germany, to prove what we already know.

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    It's such a big deal just for a test. Maybe there is more to this. Loeb in 2018?? Or just marketing hype to help with Citroens lackluster results

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    This does seem like an easy PR win for them, getting the worlds greatest rally driver out in your car is sure to get them some media exposure. And if as a plus he can help set the car up for Germany, and increase their chances of winning, that's not a bad thing?

    Although I think the pressure is really on the existing drivers, as the car proved in Corsica it is fast enough on tarmac, now they need to deliver without excuses, while their team environment seems pretty messy at the moment, not a great combination for confidence!

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    The nine-time world champion drove the French manufacturer’s C3 on asphalt and told wrc.com afterwards: “The feeling was really good. It was impressive how fast it is in the fast corners compared to an old World Rally Car.”
    Loeb was partnered by regular co-driver Daniel Elena for the test in the Moselle region of France, near Strasbourg. After heavy rain in the morning, conditions improved in the afternoon to allow Loeb to experience the car on dry roads also.
    “The feeling on the dry Tarmac at the end was really fast. I do not have a lot of cars to compare, but compared to the old WRCs, everything is a little bit better,” he said.
    “It was difficult to get the feeling in the wet conditions in the morning. It was raining a lot and the tyres were really hard for those conditions. The car is more nervous than an old WRC, so that made it quite complicated, but at the end of the day the feeling in the dry was very good.”
    Loeb provided plenty of feedback to Citroën Racing team principal Yves Matton and his engineers and urged the team to work on the C3’s driveability.

    Loeb's test was initially hampered by rain
    “The first feeling was that it was a bit of a racing car on a rally stage. When it’s full dry, it’s fast and efficient, but in tricky conditions it would be nice to improve a bit the driveability and make it easier to drive,” explained the 43-year-old.
    Loeb denied the test could be the start of a WRC comeback with Citroën, for whom he dominated the championship between 2004 and 2012. He scored 78 wins and his last appearance was at the 2015 Rallye Monte-Carlo.
    “The plan was just to come here to test the car. For me it was a good opportunity to discover the new WRC cars and for Citroën it was an opportunity to have my comments about the car, with my experience of general rally.
    “At the moment we do not have any plan for the future,” added Loeb, who currently drives with PSA stablemate Peugeot in world rallycross and cross-country rallies.

    http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/augus...5--12-12-.html

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    something we don't know from French speaking mates?




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    Quote Originally Posted by noel157 View Post
    Ohlins were tested on the car in a French/Spanish test earlier this year.
    My friend reminded about a photo from #Test3, early June 2016 in Finland, with guys in Öhlins jackets. So they've been involved in some way all the time.
    Photos: rallirinki.kuvat.fi | Twitter: @HartusvuoriWRC

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    Quote Originally Posted by wrc2017 View Post
    I'd really like Meeke is have a good result in Germany, to prove what we already know.
    Thank you for identifying your position so clearly.

    You do not wish for Citroen team to have a good result, you wish for Meeke to have a good result.

    So let's follow on with this. Say Meeke manages top 4 times consistently and finishes 3rd while the other two are 7-10.
    That would prove that Meeke can be fast while sometimes finishing a rally, yes we know that.

    Does that say very much about how good the car is on tarmac? Not really. The main issue as also voiced by Loeb now seems to be narrow "working window" of the car. So sometimes it works for one driver (Meeke in Mexico, Lefevbre in Poland, Breen in Finland) but it doesn't work well for more drivers consistently.

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    Are you forgetting Corsica?
    We know Meeke is quick on all surfaces.
    Tarmac is not the problem for Citroen DS3 but still Loeb finds it difficult.
    Why do you now believe Loeb about car issues, but not Meeke earlier in year?
    Quote Originally Posted by mknight View Post
    Thank you for identifying your position so clearly.

    You do not wish for Citroen team to have a good result, you wish for Meeke to have a good result.

    So let's follow on with this. Say Meeke manages top 4 times consistently and finishes 3rd while the other two are 7-10.
    That would prove that Meeke can be fast while sometimes finishing a rally, yes we know that.

    Does that say very much about how good the car is on tarmac? Not really. The main issue as also voiced by Loeb now seems to be narrow "working window" of the car. So sometimes it works for one driver (Meeke in Mexico, Lefevbre in Poland, Breen in Finland) but it doesn't work well for more drivers consistently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dimviii View Post
    something we don't know from French speaking mates?
    Strange title, because in the first answer he gives he's just talking about how much more nervous and twitchy "the modern cars" (read: the C3) are, and how they are brutal and hard to understand their behavior, especially in the wet. The most important thing was to not crash. The conditions got better throughout the day and that improved the behavior a lot. In dry tarmac the car is very fast.

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