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    Seems even more ridiculous to drop Meeke now. Admit they got the car wrong, and bin the one guy who dragged a win out of it. Lefebvre is slow and crashes...

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    Wonder if Mikkelsen told Citroen what was in the diff of the 2017 VW, and Citroen went back to workshop to make their own version?

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    If you read some of my earlier posts i believe the diff torque split (among other things) was requested by Meeke some time ago, but they refused to even test it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doubled1978 View Post
    Seems even more ridiculous to drop Meeke now. Admit they got the car wrong, and bin the one guy who dragged a win out of it. Lefebvre is slow and crashes...
    And Meeke is fast and crashed as well. At the end of the day, they are the same, not bringing in any manufacturer points and causing heavy repair bills for the team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doubled1978 View Post
    Seems even more ridiculous to drop Meeke now. Admit they got the car wrong, and bin the one guy who dragged a win out of it. Lefebvre is slow and crashes...
    Let's see... Who was the development driver of said car again? Oh yeah... Meeke.
    He is appearing more and more useless.

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    But Meeke's bravery (whether it be right or wrong) and pace convinced Citroen they had a quick car capable of winning rallys.. when actually they dont.

    Quote Originally Posted by TWRC View Post
    And Meeke is fast and crashed as well. At the end of the day, they are the same, not bringing in any manufacturer points and causing heavy repair bills for the team.

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    He test drove the car when it was presented infront of him. Major concepts of the car are wrong. He was not, nor did Citroen have, a development driver.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wrc2017 View Post
    But Meeke's bravery (whether it be right or wrong) and pace convinced Citroen they had a quick car capable of winning rallys.. when actually they dont.
    Pretty much everyone everywhere claimed the Citroen was the fastest before this season.

    Personally after having evaluated the season so far, I believe Citroen to be on approximately the same level as Toyota and Ford (i.e. Behind Hyundai).

    If we remember last seasons, Citroen was capable to win with Meeke only when they had a road order advantage over the Ogier/VW combo. Now they outpace the Ogier/Ford combo also from a similar or worse road position with Meeke and similar pace with Breen on individual stages.

    Citroen has managemental, and reliability issues (and massive driver issues with Meeke), but I don't believe the car to be fundamentally flawed.

    Sensitive to setup maybe... But not incapable.

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    It capable on smooth tarmac
    Maybe we will see after Poland

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    Quote Originally Posted by itix View Post
    Let's see... Who was the development driver of said car again? Oh yeah... Meeke.
    He is appearing more and more useless.
    Perhaps, but Mattons comments tend to suggest they know the fault lay with them. And if as others have said they wouldn't let him try the different torque split etc, then how can he be responsible for the development direction of it?
    When all is said and done, only the team really know, but from watching all the onboard action on WRC+ its clear the suspension is terrible when compared with the others, and that the rear is always a big fight to keep stable. If the car was confidence inspiring, Im sure Mikkelsen would have been quicker than he was in Italy, he was miles off. Im not saying Meeke is blameless, but to say he is useless is frankly just bollocks.

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