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    Quote Originally Posted by EstWRC View Post
    but what about this theory Eddie. i have been thinking about this for a week now (after hearing Budars interview on gravel notes)

    what IF Ogier was the reason that Tänak left TGR? Budar said in the gravelnotes podcast that at around Rally Germany time it was clear Ogier didnt want to continue with them.

    So, Ott heard that Ogier is having talks with Tommi joining Toyota and we know Ott doesnt want to be with him in the same team anymore, pluss the bad environment in the team.
    Nice theory but I don't believe for a moment Toyota could have hired both Tänak (with a new high-price contract) and Ogier (with contract-breaking money to pay)

    However, Ogier could be the reason that Mäkinen lowered his offer for Tänak because he knew he would get Ogier if Tänak left?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    Nice theory but I don't believe for a moment Toyota could have hired both Tänak (with a new high-price contract) and Ogier (with contract-breaking money to pay)

    However, Ogier could be the reason that Mäkinen lowered his offer for Tänak because he knew he would get Ogier if Tänak left?
    yes, thats what i also meant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    Nice theory but I don't believe for a moment Toyota could have hired both Tänak (with a new high-price contract) and Ogier (with contract-breaking money to pay)
    2 top-drivers in one team probably wasn't Mäkinen's original plan, he have been quite vocal against that and always send clear messages that top3 should be in different teams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    Nice theory but I don't believe for a moment Toyota could have hired both Tänak (with a new high-price contract) and Ogier (with contract-breaking money to pay)

    However, Ogier could be the reason that Mäkinen lowered his offer for Tänak because he knew he would get Ogier if Tänak left?
    Doesn't make sense unless you get Ogier for more than one year. Otherwise it's a very shortsighted strategy.

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    Or when/if Ogier actually retire, they start to chase Neuville. I have a feeling that next year there will be a lot of tension between Ott and Thierry.

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    Its likely we will never know the truth unless Makinen and Ogier give their sides of the story.

    All we know is where we are and that Citroen are gone. And that its bad for WRC strength, bad for drivers needing seats and for having Tanak & Neuville in one super-team.

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    I’m pretty sure Ogier would have gone to Hyundai if Ott had stayed in Toyota

    At least I wouldn’t rule it out
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    Our review of the Citroën C3 WRC 2017-2019 aero modifications and the evolution of the development work that led to the new aero package. Hope you like it!

    https://www.wrcwings.tech/2019/11/25...wrc-2017-2019/
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    Quote Originally Posted by lluisva555 View Post
    Our review of the Citroën C3 WRC 2017-2019 aero modifications and the evolution of the development work that led to the new aero package. Hope you like it!
    https://www.wrcwings.tech/2019/11/25...wrc-2017-2019/
    One can now speculate that testing the 2020 aero pack prior to Catalunya was also an attempt to convince Ogier to stay in the team…

    Btw, I’ve read somewhere that the aero pack was developed by Oreca; any truth to it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by EstWRC View Post
    I’m pretty sure Ogier would have gone to Hyundai if Ott had stayed in Toyota

    At least I wouldn’t rule it out
    Or just as possible, a return to M-Sport. You cant rule out anything being possible this crazy silly season.
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