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    [QUOTE=ESTR;1171164]
    Quote Originally Posted by T16 View Post

    Hyundai I believe have greatest budget and probably spend way more for development than it's rivals last year. But we all know where this goes.
    Judging by test kms Citroen used most money for 2017 car development before start of the season. (Ignoring VW). Hyundai was next. (There is a table showing "official" test km before 2017 start)

    During first half of 2017 Hyundai and Toyota looked similarly committed, but from mid-2017 it seems like Toyota is the biggest spender.

    (This is just my speculation based on visible number of testing days)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ESTR View Post

    Judging by test kms Citroen used most money for 2017 car development before start of the season. (Ignoring VW). Hyundai was next. (There is a table showing "official" test km before 2017 start)

    During first half of 2017 Hyundai and Toyota looked similarly committed, but from mid-2017 it seems like Toyota is the biggest spender.

    (This is just my speculation based on visible number of testing days)
    Compare to Hyundai they include 3rd car from portugal. Then send only two cars to Australia later on. And Hyundai is not somehow commited. Oh yeas they have 4 drivers under contract (Mikkelsen probably isn't cheapest).

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    Yes that's some good points. Toyota focused the budget more on development at the second half of last year while Hyundai got Mikkelsen and 4 cars in GB to try to get title(s).

    Still so far this year it does not seem like there is a big budget difference between them (and if then not in favor of Hyundai). Impossible to know for sure of course.

    Anyway it also matters a lot how you use the money. As mentioned it looked like Citroen had ample funds during C3 development. But they choose not use the money on experienced (development) drivers, which in hindsight might have been clever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mknight View Post
    Anyway it also matters a lot how you use the money. As mentioned it looked like Citroen had ample funds during C3 development. But they choose not use the money on experienced (development) drivers, which in hindsight might have been clever.
    As I've understood, then when it comes to French teams, the engineers are the kings and the drivers can f...
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    So when is the next time Citroen will be allowed to make changes on their cars?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eli View Post
    So when is the next time Citroen will be allowed to make changes on their cars?
    2019. The same homologation must be used for three years (2017 – 2019). During the three year period they can only use jokers and probably variant options (VO) for some parts. Current rules are valid until the end of 2022.

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    And Meeke probably don't have motivation if he already knows where he will be next year(s).

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldF View Post
    2019. The same homologation must be used for three years (2017 – 2019). During the three year period they can only use jokers and probably variant options (VO) for some parts. Current rules are valid until the end of 2022.

    Only in Finnish:
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    I was talking about the Jokers.
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    Money for car design and development isnt everything, as M-Sport proved last year (although paying for the best driver helps).

    But Citroen going into the 2018 season with a two-car team against everyone else with three and expecting to compete is just madness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    Money for car design and development isnt everything, as M-Sport proved last year (although paying for the best driver helps).

    But Citroen going into the 2018 season with a two-car team against everyone else with three and expecting to compete is just madness.
    Maybe they want to be last on standings and that they are there just for show and drama...

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