Citroen WRT

[AndyRAC]

This.


I bet Citroen PR wish people would stop referring to these drivers as being 'dropped'. But fundamentally that is what has happened.

Call it rotation.....like when WRC events were dropped for a year...

[smokingjoe]

Call it rotation.....like when WRC events were dropped for a year...

like Rally NZ ??

[racerx1979]

I'm still baffled at the fact that Andreas's car is posting times just as fast as Breen and Leferve. I would assume he would be faster with the updated components. Might be conditions, but either way it looks bad for Citroen. Still enough rallies to prove a point, but doesn't seem likely

[er88]

I'm still baffled at the fact that Andreas's car is posting times just as fast as Breen and Leferve. I would assume he would be faster with the updated components. Might be conditions, but either way it looks bad for Citroen. Still enough rallies to prove a point, but doesn't seem likely

It's embarrassing for them

[RAS007]

It's embarrassing for them

And for Mikkelsen, given his interviews before the rally.

[Eli]

I just hope they will take a lot of this (bad) experience and learn from it ASAP, so in 2018 we have 4 Manu. which are actually capable of winning the title.

[mknight]

I'm still baffled at the fact that Andreas's car is posting times just as fast as Breen and Leferve. I would assume he would be faster with the updated components. Might be conditions, but either way it looks bad for Citroen. Still enough rallies to prove a point, but doesn't seem likely

As I wrote elsewhere:
https://www.ewrc-results.com/leg/364...nd-2017/?leg=2

Lefebre 2.7s faster than Mikkelsen for Saturday, Breen 20s down.

Mikkelsen was off the road in field twice today, prbly some 10s lost in that combined. Road position certainly matters for Breen, maybe a bit for Mikkelsen. (Breen 1st on road, Mikkelsen 2nd, Lefebvre 5th)

As I also wrote that I think today they did ok all 3. Beat all "2nd level" drivers including Sordo. But clearly far behind the top 5.
Even more importantly basically all 3 had consistent speed whole day, not like before when one stage is epic and next is hopeless. So there are signs of improvement, question is if they are too little too late.

Yesterday in the wet during the afternoon Mikkelsen was far faster than the other two, and that's the kind of conditions where the less twitchy handling should help, maybe not so much difference on the not-so twisty dry roads today. Also Lefevbre won a stage here last year and did 1-2 other good times, in a way it was his best rally of the season.

[racerx1979]

Best rally for Leferve and a few decent stages by Mikkelsen, but still off the pace for the whole gang. Finland will be interesting with Meeke. Does he go all out or try bring it home safe with a top five finish. His past stats would suggest otherwise. At this point as long as he's ahead of the rest of the Citroen squad he's in a good situation. What would you guys do if you were in Meekes shoes??

[er88]

As I wrote elsewhere:
https://www.ewrc-results.com/leg/364...nd-2017/?leg=2

Lefebre 2.7s faster than Mikkelsen for Saturday, Breen 20s down.

Mikkelsen was off the road in field twice today, prbly some 10s lost in that combined. Road position certainly matters for Breen, maybe a bit for Mikkelsen. (Breen 1st on road, Mikkelsen 2nd, Lefebvre 5th)

As I also wrote that I think today they did ok all 3. Beat all "2nd level" drivers including Sordo. But clearly far behind the top 5.
Even more importantly basically all 3 had consistent speed whole day, not like before when one stage is epic and next is hopeless. So there are signs of improvement, question is if they are too little too late.

Yesterday in the wet during the afternoon Mikkelsen was far faster than the other two, and that's the kind of conditions where the less twitchy handling should help, maybe not so much difference on the not-so twisty dry roads today. Also Lefevbre won a stage here last year and did 1-2 other good times, in a way it was his best rally of the season.

Lol come on now, are you actually sugar coating this slugfest for 10th place? This is one of the best drivers in the world? It's an embarrassment. Let's face facts.

[mknight]

Lol come on now, are you actually sugar coating this slugfest for 10th place? This is one of the best drivers in the world? It's an embarrassment. Let's face facts.

Maybe you didn't manage to read what I wrote. I will highlight it for you.

I think today they did ok all 3. Beat all "2nd level" drivers including Sordo. But clearly far behind the top 5.
... there are signs of improvement, question is if they are too little too late.

(extra emphasis on today - Saturday)

The fact that they are "fighting" for 6-7 place (for Lefevbre) and 9-10 for Mikkelsen has all to do with Friday.