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    Cross dates WRX and WRC is
    1. Argentina
    2. Italy
    3. Turkey

    and probably Australia due to jet lag. So other rally will be probably with Loeb. Mexico, Corsica, Portugal, Finland, Germany, GB, Spain - quite nice rallys for Loeb

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    That is great news. I really want to see him race.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KKS View Post
    Cross dates WRX and WRC is
    1. Argentina
    2. Italy
    3. Turkey

    and probably Australia due to jet lag. So other rally will be probably with Loeb. Mexico, Corsica, Portugal, Finland, Germany, GB, Spain - quite nice rallys for Loeb
    Loeb has said dozens of times he only wants to do 2 or 3 WRC events next year. He’s now focused in winning the Dakar and then he wants to beat VW at the WRX. He’ll be pretty busy preparing the new 208 in the new structure Peugeot will probably have in rallycross.

    Anyway, and like many of you have been mentioning for a long time, what makes everybody worried about Citroen’s future it’s Citroen top management choices. They weren’t able to get Ogier and they’ve let Mikkelsen go. Can we hope for a plan C?

    Besides the usual 4 or 5 events Al Qassimi usually 'must' do, and the 2 or 3 Loeb can enter, there’s still room to get an experience driver in the third C3 for the remaining rally’s, helping to secure points and developing the C3. Haninnen or even Ostberg would be practical choices, as they’re available and not expensive.

    If instead Citroen chiefs decide to keep Lefebvre in the third car, that would be a revealing sign of how much they’re unable to recover the team. Soon we'll know; meanwhile, fingers crossed!
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    No that he want, he only can. Guys here think that rally is only 3 or 4 days, what about preparation (test days, recces, travels, fitness and so and so...). He must do the job at Peugeot for World RX and is his priority now. And if some events don't clash, what do you think he will be free like butterfly to do 9 events?? And he is older now, world rally events are tough, hard and he will not have energy for full season in World RX and almost full in WRC... No one can do that (if he will do than hats off)...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rally Power View Post
    Besides the usual 4 or 5 events Al Qassimi usually 'must' do, and the 2 or 3 Loeb can enter, there’s still room to get an experience driver in the third C3 for the remaining rally’s, helping to secure points and developing the C3.
    Rumors are it's a two car team for 2018 with third car run by PH-Sport. Meeke a full season, Breen/Loeb/Al-Qassimi in the other car?

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    Really got my fingers crossed for Corsica. Although I just wonder whether it being the weekend before WRX Rd1 means he might steer clear.

    Like ESTR said though, just because a WRC round doesn't clash doesn't mean he'll automatically do it.
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    Does someone still believe Loeb would do more than a couple of rallies? KKS just listed the possible events.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    Rumors are it's a two car team for 2018 with third car run by PH-Sport. Meeke a full season, Breen/Loeb/Al-Qassimi in the other car?
    Hard to believe in that rumour once Abu Dhabi/Red Bull clash won’t happen after all. Most likely the team will continue to run 3 cars; Meeke in the first, Breen in the second and Al Qassimi sharing the third with Loeb (probably for no more than 7 events).

    So, will Citroen trust the 3rd C3 car to useless Lefebvre on the remaining events or will they get reasonable and call Hanninen to do it? Hanninen would be a great choice: his form has risen hugely during the season and he’s used to development work. If not Hanninen, then Ostberg; he would still be a better option than Lefebvre.
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    I think that there are still 'issues' at Citroen; I certainly won't be putting my money anywhere near them.....
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    At beginning of the year they had 2 big issues:

    - Drivers (one is not reliable, other is not top fast (yet) and third is neither)
    - Car

    Now they maybe improved the car a bit, though it still seems to struggle a bit on wet gravel, but the driver situation is back to where they started.

    Btw. I really recommend reading that Australia/season review:

    I wonder if Matton believes this or everything is just PR. A few months ago I'd say these releases are PR only, but now I am getting the scary thought that he might actually believe he is doing well. ..... or some of his bosses do since he has not been fired yet.
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