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    I don’t quite get all the bashing Citroen’s receiving due to Meeke being sacked. Judging by his presence in media, he’s a nice chap and all that, but… that’s got nothing to do with the things that occurred few hours ago. Let’s face it: Meeke had 17 months to deliver with the C3 in competition as the clear number one driver in the team he represented – and he didn’t. And not only he didn’t do that, but the way he didn’t deliver was something you just can’t accept from a guy who just 17 months ago was the betting companies’ favourite to grab the 2017 driver’s title. Now if you’re Pierre Budar and you’re running an accountable department (or a business unit) in a listed company that is continuously underdelivering, like Citroen WRT undeniably has, sooner or later you HAVE TO DO SOMETHING. Either you do it yourself or you’re told to do it (at the time we don’t know which one was the case). And then you do sacrifices. At the end of the day, Budar himself is accountable, to both his employees and the executives above him. And I’m sure everybody understands that it’s not like Budar thinks “now that we got rid of Meeke, we’ll be scoring so much more points”. That’s not the philosophy here. He shows he’s trying to change the course and that’s what he’s supposed to do and sacking Meeke is the obvious choice. It leaves room for new heroes to emerge. Is that the most likely scenario to happen? Probably not, but neither was Meeke’s resurrection. And if you, as a manager, are tired of waiting the latter to happen, then why not to go with the other option?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek View Post
    Moreover they walked into a disasterous PR trap which was visible from miles...
    so true!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allez Andruet View Post
    I don’t quite get all the bashing Citroen’s receiving due to Meeke being sacked. Judging by his presence in media, he’s a nice chap and all that, but… that’s got nothing to do with the things that occurred few hours ago. Let’s face it: Meeke had 17 months to deliver with the C3 in competition as the clear number one driver in the team he represented – and he didn’t. And not only he didn’t do that, but the way he didn’t deliver was something you just can’t accept from a guy who just 17 months ago was the betting companies’ favourite to grab the 2017 driver’s title. Now if you’re Pierre Budar and you’re running an accountable department (or a business unit) in a listed company that is continuously underdelivering, like Citroen WRT undeniably has, sooner or later you HAVE TO DO SOMETHING. Either you do it yourself or you’re told to do it (at the time we don’t know which one was the case). And then you do sacrifices. At the end of the day, Budar himself is accountable, to both his employees and the executives above him. And I’m sure everybody understands that it’s not like Budar thinks “now that we got rid of Meeke, we’ll be scoring so much more points”. That’s not the philosophy here. He shows he’s trying to change the course and that’s what he’s supposed to do and sacking Meeke is the obvious choice. It leaves room for new heroes to emerge. Is that the most likely scenario to happen? Probably not, but neither was Meeke’s resurrection. And if you, as a manager, are tired of waiting the latter to happen, then why not to go with the other option?
    Spoken like someone who probably runs a business himself. I completely
    agree. The writing was on the wall. I'm not one bit surprised. When they went off and we're safe I thought wow, this might be it.

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    To me this was the natural outcome from Meekes´bad results. Also economics. In combination with the high cost crashes, this was expected. To me I´d expected it to happen, not now but after the season.

    Meanwhile one should have liked to see better driversmanagement from the bosses in the team. A Meeke never crashing should yet had given top five results even though he never should reach podiums at the beginning. This should have started more than two years ago.

    Remember he was only inches from spoiling his victory in Mexico as well.

    Let´s se what next chapter will bring.
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    Quote Originally Posted by racerx1979 View Post
    Juho Hanninen on the phone with Budar now.
    Juho was still test driving the Yaris a few days ago.

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    Well at least all the Meeke haters like ....... & Co can have their 15 mins of ecstasy and then decide who they can hate next.
    Last edited by noel157; 24th May 2018 at 21:54.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    Juho was still test driving the Yaris a few days ago.
    And so was Meeke driving a C3
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    Would it have been better for Meeke in the end if they had made this decision already 11 months ago, after Sardegna 2017?

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    Have none of you ever heard of the saying "basically any publicity is good publicity"?

    Meeke wasn't done for none rallying reasons, like problems in his personal life tarnishing the brand in that way. He was only making rallying related headlines.

    The Citroen team puts in a meagre amount of finance and scrounges the rest off the Arabs. They have been putting in the least amount possible to give them a reward back. Input vs reward.

    Meeke is one of the most popular drivers (for good and bad, because he's dramatic and likeable). He can win races in that car against the best in the world and even when he crashes, it's big big news. Obviously Meeke and Citroen would've rather been world champion last season, but the Citroen team got more mainstream media coverage than near enough all the other teams based off of Mexico alone last year. It was on BBC breakfast 4times the Monday after that power stage incident, when they don't/ barely even report on Wales rally GB anymore. It's not true that this is a decision made because his crashes are damaging Citroen's brand.

    It's a decision made because they are either pulling out at the end of the year, or know they are dropping Meeke anyway; and are too tight to even be bothered to pay for some expensive repairs for the rest of the season. So top level management have stepped in imo. Even if Meeke crashed 4 times till the end of the season, got 1 podium and 1 win they'd probably get a hell of a lot more publicity than they will do with Breen, Mads and the Sheikh struggling to break into the top 5 (top 10 in the Sheikhs case).

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