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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    Money for car design and development isnt everything, as M-Sport proved last year (although paying for the best driver helps).

    But Citroen going into the 2018 season with a two-car team against everyone else with three and expecting to compete is just madness.
    Maybe they want to be last on standings and that they are there just for show and drama...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eli View Post
    I was talking about the Jokers.
    Feel free to do that. (just kidding )

    They have a limited amount of jokers per year / homologation period. Looking at the list of homologations for Hyundai, it’s possible to make a new joker homologation every month if they want to spend all the jokers right away. Citroen’s Patrice Davesne said in an interview (RallySport Magazine October 2016, page 44-45 https://issuu.com/hi-techmedia/docs/...e_october_2016) that regarding the engine they have 3 jokers per year.

    “We can make changes, but some parts of the engine are frozen by regulations for three years. For example bore is not allowed to change, the distance between cylinder and the distance between camshaft can’t change. But we have three jokers per year and, for example, we can change in the same year the pistons, connecting rods and oil sump. Each year there are three jokers and we can use as we want.”

    Davesne said three jokers but Hyundai have made four jokers for the engine?

    https://www.fia.com/file/65105/downl...token=P01P9A00

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    01.01.2017 400/01 WRC VARIANTE KIT WRC 2017
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    TRANSMISSION / POWER TRAIN
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    Thankx for the extended info
    If in doubt, flat out!

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    Mads left for France to meet the Citroen team today, and the plan is to get first test tomorrow, Mads told a Norwegian newspaper during Rally Finnskog yesterday.

    Not sure where he will test tomorrow, but probably at a Citroen Test venue.

    He need to find some snow and ice asap! How much is he allowed to test before sweden? Are there limitations?
    If this becomes more than a one off, he needs to get a C3 R5 to get familiar with size and form, and get Citroen km.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sulland View Post
    Mads left for France to meet the Citroen team today, and the plan is to get first test tomorrow, Mads told a Norwegian newspaper during Rally Finnskog yesterday.

    Not sure where he will test tomorrow, but probably at a Citroen Test venue.

    He need to find some snow and ice asap! How much is he allowed to test before sweden? Are there limitations?
    If this becomes more than a one off, he needs to get a C3 R5 to get familiar with size and form, and get Citroen km.
    Well, outside of a certain circle of distance (I forget how far) to the team's main base there is a limitation of test days (which I forget the number of as well). All teams except Toyota have to leave that circle to get realistic test conditions for Sweden. Given that Sweden is such a specific rally and that Mads will play a far smaller roll in Citroen's makeup I fear he'll not get an awfull lot and therefore probably not ideal amount of testing. At least he'll be able to risk a bit more since he doesn't have to finance each piece of the car he breaks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sulland View Post
    Mads left for France to meet the Citroen team today, and the plan is to get first test tomorrow, Mads told a Norwegian newspaper during Rally Finnskog yesterday.

    Not sure where he will test tomorrow, but probably at a Citroen Test venue.

    He need to find some snow and ice asap! How much is he allowed to test before sweden? Are there limitations?
    If this becomes more than a one off, he needs to get a C3 R5 to get familiar with size and form, and get Citroen km.
    Think he will test on gravel in France, just to get used to the car.
    There will be a test in Sweden on Saturday, I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Watson View Post
    Well, outside of a certain circle of distance (I forget how far) to the team's main base there is a limitation of test days (which I forget the number of as well).
    50 km
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    Seems that Mads is having Adapta and OneBet backing for his Citroen deal

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    Snow at Citroen Racing HQ is convenient. Any test roads nearby ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    Snow at Citroen Racing HQ is convenient. Any test roads nearby ?
    Probably the road won't have an icy surface underneath the snow, so it will be very different to Rally Sweden

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