I have no idea who is going to win next season!

[rjbetty]

They always seem slow after a good season in recent years. 2004 after Kimis title charge in 2003 their 2004 car was poor.

2009 after Lewis winning the title.

2013 now after a fast 2012 car

And a winless 2006 that followed a 2005 in which they were consistently the fastest car.

[steveaki13]

I have heard a lot of people saying. Dont judge them so early, they can develop the car through the season and start winning again.

I always think "True, but it will be too late and their season will be over".

They have to start a season consistantly with a good car. Hence why so few championships have been delivered

[jens]

I have heard a lot of people saying. Dont judge them so early, they can develop the car through the season and start winning again.

I always think "True, but it will be too late and their season will be over".

They have to start a season consistantly with a good car. Hence why so few championships have been delivered

True. Basically a slow start can work only in a topsy-turvy season, where no-one can pull decisively ahead and everyone's form is fluctuating wildly. Like in 2003 and 2012 Williams and Ferrari respectively had a slow start and took some time to unleash the potential of the car, yet were fighting for the title in the end.

But in a consistent season like 2011 you would play catch-up all season long. Let's see, which kind of season 2013 is going to be.

[DexDexter]

I have heard a lot of people saying. Dont judge them so early, they can develop the car through the season and start winning again.

I always think "True, but it will be too late and their season will be over".

They have to start a season consistantly with a good car. Hence why so few championships have been delivered

IMO they have a fundamental problem in the design office, since they cannot replicate success year after year. Look at Red Bull, they are always on the pace no matter what you do with the regulations, but that's basically down to one man, which I find unbelievable in this day and age.

[jens]

IMO they have a fundamental problem in the design office, since they cannot replicate success year after year. Look at Red Bull, they are always on the pace no matter what you do with the regulations, but that's basically down to one man, which I find unbelievable in this day and age.

It is never down to one man, but simply Newey has managed to get a very good team around him. And I think Horner's efforts in getting and keeping the team together have been very underrated as well. In any case, every person in an F1 team has their own field of work. You may be a genius in your role, but if you haven't got a team to support/complement your skills, you can do nothing. Newey may have great ideas, but other people in other roles must be smart enough to understand and implement them in their activities properly. It applies to every field in life, by the way.

Basically in my view the whole RBR team is a bit underappreciated (with the exception of Newey), and that includes Vettel and should I say Webber as well! They are all doing a truly spectacular job! And domination in any kind of world-class level demands perfection and superb performance from everyone contributing to the effort. World-class level is just so high that you can't do with anything less than that.

[steveaki13]

You are spot on Jens.

Red Bull the Team have designed then built 4 and maybe now 5 incredible F1 cars.

It may have been the best car but Vettel has used it brilliantly and even Webber has helped secure the constructors.

Whatever anyone has said, this team are one hell of a team.

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[rjbetty]

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[steveaki13]

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That's the first time I've seen a spam bot using a smiley though. They're getting more advanced.

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[DexDexter]

]It is never down to one man, but simply Newey has managed to get a very good team around him. And I think Horner's efforts in getting and keeping the team together have been very underrated as well. In any case, every person in an F1 team has their own field of work. You may be a genius in your role, but if you haven't got a team to support/complement your skills, you can do nothing. Newey may have great ideas, but other people in other roles must be smart enough to understand and implement them in their activities properly. It applies to every field in life, by the way.[/B]

Basically in my view the whole RBR team is a bit underappreciated (with the exception of Newey), and that includes Vettel and should I say Webber as well! They are all doing a truly spectacular job! And domination in any kind of world-class level demands perfection and superb performance from everyone contributing to the effort. World-class level is just so high that you can't do with anything less than that.

I know it's not as simple as that but for some reason success always follows Newey. Even at Leyton House in 1990 after they had sacked him.