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    Quote Originally Posted by Juha_Koo
    WTF? Where's the stewards decision?

    Colin Clark wrote this on twitter:

    Colin Clark ‏@voiceofrally Haven't read the ruling yet but hearing that Novikov has been given a 10min penalty
    because of condition of his tyres. Sounds odd to me!
    ...Funny how ev'rything was roses when we held on to the guns...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek
    Now imagine someones brakes fail before the junction...
    Quote Originally Posted by tommeke_B
    This has nothing to do with a compression effect. They're just in the middle of the braking zone behind the hairpin, if you brake too late, you end up where they are standing... I still believe most of the photographers keep safety in mind, but you always have some who don't. Also this hairpin is a bit of a difficult situation if you want to take nice pictures...
    Quote Originally Posted by stefanvv
    South-Western European countries (Portugal, Spain, may be southern France) are known with these unwise spectators standing on dangerous places.
    In this case, it's impossible a car running over the photographers. Maybe an accident after a brake failure could happen in the left bend before the junction, but never in that right junction. There are hundreds of bends more dangerous than that hairpin in every rally. If you know it, it's an obvious compression effect, as Fly_Half said. There are dozens of meters from the angle of the hairpin to the place where the photographers are standing (if you don't believe me you can see this last year's video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_IsDoSgve4).
    Another point is talking about photographers who think that a media vest is a suit of armour or saying that spectators in the South of Europe are crazier than spectators in the North of Europe. These should be discussed in another thread.
    There are better or worse rallies than this, but please don't throw biased information on a rally which at least work in security at the same level as the others of the Championship.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kielder
    In this case, it's impossible a car running over the photographers. Maybe an accident after a brake failure could happen in the left bend before the junction, but never in that right junction. There are hundreds of bends more dangerous than that hairpin in every rally. If you know it, it's an obvious compression effect, as Fly_Half said. There are dozens of meters from the angle of the hairpin to the place where the photographers are standing (if you don't believe me you can see this last year's video: SS10 El Molar Rally Spain - YouTube).
    Another point is talking about photographers who think that a media vest is a suit or armour or saying that spectators in the South of Europe are crazier than spectators in the North of Europe. These should be discussed in another thread.
    There are better or worse rallies than this, but please don't throw biased information on a rally which at least work in security at the same level as the others of the Championship.
    I agree the distance is quite a lot, but this indeed contradicts with all spectator safety bulletins should be spreaded at every Rally. At least at that place there should be barrier (even this is not safe enough, but that is another matter), which is not the case I believe. You probably have watched videos from 85/86's and see what I mean, now that was really crazy.
    "With that car, your brain can actually never keep up"
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    really big difference from the angle the photo taken

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    The Finn will finish on 151 points by taking second with Ostberg netting 147 points for coming home fifth. If Norwegian Ostberg scored three bonus points for winning the Power Stage and Latvala was outside the top three positions on the test, it wouldn’t be enough to overhaul Latvala.
    World Rally Championship - News - Latvala: fight for third far from settled

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    Quote Originally Posted by dimviii
    Thanks much for the clarification!! Its really a shame but it must have been an amazing journey and an exciting time for John and Mike. Id just like to wish them the best for the future with the hope that maybe next year they can return to the WRC at some point. Big up!!John and Mike!!!! Maximum respec!!!
    To finish first,first you must finish!!!

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    Good morning guys!

    beer anyone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dimviii
    Good morning guys!

    beer anyone?
    Good morning.. I had a few overnight :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by bluuford
    Good morning.. I had a few overnight :-)
    good morning bluuford! will it rain? Petter expects rain .

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