NASCAR COT a big joke.

[dont_be_jack]

You don't need COT to improve safety. The Safer barriers and HANS have already made NASCAR much safer. Side impact issues could have been addressed with the original car.

Speed - we have restrictor plates for that. How long is it going to be before they have clawed back the speed anyway?

Cost - maybe long term, but short term definitely not. Also, as the tolerances are finer on the COT, how long is it before cars don't pass inspection? Biffle has already lost his car until later in the week, not great preparation for Martinsville.

Style - none.

They should have called it Car for a Blind Alley.

Ho hum.

Side impacts could not have been addressed with the CoY. There was not enough room between the sheet metal and the cage for there to be the impact foam that exists in the CoT.

You can't rely on restrictor plates for lowering speed everywhere. Why? Look at New Hampshire when Burton lead all the laps when they ran the restrictor plates out of fear that there would be another fatal crash there. Most boring race in the world.

The cost may be higher right now for both reasons that they need to produce two kinds of cars as well as they're still making CoTs, but it's not that much of a difference to the major teams. It's already helping lower costs for the smaller teams, I guarantee it.

There is style to it - a more realistic stock car style. Do you see cars on the street that the majority of people drive that were as sleek as the CoY? I don't think so. The CoT looks much more like a regular street car.

[call_me_andrew]

The CoT looks much more like a regular street car.

Yeah, but if it looked like the ACTUAL street cars, that would be great.

In this picture there are two Chevys, one Ford, and one Dodge.

Can you tell which is the Ford and/or which is the Dodge?



I still think the stock bodywork would make for close racing.









And I think NASCAR would like to lower the horsepower numbers across the board.

[call_me_andrew]

And I'll put up the Monte Carlo now because I can't use six images in one post.

[POS_Maggott]

Where did you get the "full second slower" number?

Homework lesson!

During the single qualifying session held last season at Bristol, Kurt Busch got the pole by running a 124.906mph lap. This season, the pole was 125.453mph.

That... thats about a tenth faster. Practice times in race trim were around 1mph faster last season, but with much cooler temperatures compared to this year, the track was obviously much faster.

When we go to Martinsville, you'll see that the cars are just as fast on these tracks.

[slorydn1]

Where did you get the "full second slower" number?

Homework lesson!

During the single qualifying session held last season at Bristol, Kurt Busch got the pole by running a 124.906mph lap. This season, the pole was 125.453mph.

That... thats about a tenth faster. Practice times in race trim were around 1mph faster last season, but with much cooler temperatures compared to this year, the track was obviously much faster.

When we go to Martinsville, you'll see that the cars are just as fast on these tracks.

I think he was probably comparing it to the track record which was set
by Ryan Newman on 3/21/2003 which was a 14.908 sec @ 128.709 mph

[Abo]

The cars were a full second SLOWER per lap

I thought that was the point...

How about issues with the front splitter cutting tyres down?

[POS_Maggott]

I think he was probably comparing it to the track record which was set
by Ryan Newman on 3/21/2003 which was a 14.908 sec @ 128.709 mph

Even if you can count that, then its only 4 tenths slower. Essentially, since the track record hasnt been broken in 4 years, we can see that all the cars since then have been slower.

So really, that argument isnt valid any way that you look at it, it just doesnt make sense.

[harvick#1]

they will break the track record possibly next year, as long as they don't take any banking out

[dont_be_jack]

they will break the track record possibly next year, as long as they don't take any banking out

Well, they should be closer to it as they learn what little tricks they can pull with the new car.

[rainbow warrior]

I thought that was the point...

How about issues with the front splitter cutting tyres down?

That is my BIGGEST concern, imagine that on a track like Dega or Daytona....Brrrrrr Doesn't bear thinking about.

IMHO - Loose the rear wing and they are not as bad as I first thought.

RW