Is There a God?

[MrJan]

If a worldwide poll's outcome would look like what our poll results look now, we would be living in a better world.

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[Brown, Jon Brow]

I'm unhappy with the options. I'm an atheist because I don't believe in god.

I can't disprove that god exists. Atheism isn't not believing because you have evidence that god doesn't exist, it is not believing because there is no evidence.

[N4D13]

I'm unhappy with the options. I'm an atheist because I don't believe in god.

I can't disprove that god exists. Atheism isn't not believing because you have evidence that god doesn't exist, it is not believing because there is no evidence.

Personally, I'm an apatheist. This means that, in my opinion, whether a god exists or not is irrelevant, as we do not have any way to know if he does exist and how he could influence our lives. Basically, it's like living inside a black box - you don't know if there's anything outside, and even if it does, you can't really know whether what is going on is caused by what is outside the box (God) or not.

Sorry if you think that was a poor analogy. I've tried to explain my view, but perhaps it isn't as clear as I wanted it to be.

[Rollo]

This is an 11 minute video. It's all purely conjecture but worth discussion:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uY_ZgAvXsuw

I don't really like the position of hard-Atheism because logically I think it falls over.

If a hypothetical flatlander who exists in the second dimension, passes through the third, their capability of observing things is incredibly limited. Likewise, it can be supposed that we currently observe five dimensions (because time is linear) but anything beyond that is either difficult or impossible to observe.
Since science itself relies on the collection of empirical and measurable evidence, how is it supposed to deal with unobservable evidence? That isn't to suggest that the evidence isn't there though. What if God/god/s are/is a hyperdimensional being who exists in all dimensions or somewhere above?

Part of the problem with this entire debate is that people's perception is entirely skewed. Theists will take evidence as proof of the existence of God, whereas Atheists will take evidence as proof of the non-existence of God.
The word agnostic derives from the Greek "gnosis" which means knowledge and the "a" at the beginning is a negative qualifier. Agnosticism basically holds that there aren't rational grounds and/or reason itself isn't sufficient to prove whether or not God/god/s exist or not.

I myself am a Theist (a Christian) but for the reasons stated above completely understand why an Atheist would find my position just as unalienable. Given that my perception is also entirely skewed, it's entirely rational for both hard-Atheists and agnostic-atheists to reject my position outright.

[Bob Riebe]

But God is clearly a cat, even dogs know that!

Hmmm, sometimes I wonder....

They should do another OH GOD movie and have that little wee, wee, wee pig from the Geico commercials play god.

[Bob Riebe]

May I remind you that if reason is your means, logic is the method, and in logic you cannot prove a negative. It is incumbent on the arguer making the positve assertion to prove it with evidence. Logically, proof requires evidence, whether empirical or rational, and there can be no evidence for something which does not exist.

When it is found, then it does exist but universally only if everyone accpets it.
To those who do not, it does not exist.

[Bob Riebe]

They should do another [i]OH GOD[/b] movie and happy that little wee, wee, wee pig from the Geico commercials play god.

[janvanvurpa]

Personally, I'm an apatheist. This means that, in my opinion, whether a god exists or not is irrelevant, as we do not have any way to know if he does exist and how he could influence our lives. Basically, it's like living inside a black box - you don't know if there's anything outside, and even if it does, you can't really know whether what is going on is caused by what is outside the box (God) or not.

Sorry if you think that was a poor analogy. I've tried to explain my view, but perhaps it isn't as clear as I wanted it to be.

Carrying your idea a bit further, "and what if a god, 10,000 gods exist, what of it? What are we to do about it?
And conversely "what if Bogu doesn't exist? What does that mean we are to do about that.?"

In either case we still have just keep on keepin on.

[Rudy Tamasz]

Faith is faith. It does not need scientific evidence. Even so, it has plenty.

[densonvendor]

Yes, i believe in God.