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    US-based human rights group says Iraq is becoming a 'police state'

    I thought Iraq WAS a police state, before it became an anarchy. Only the table has turned. Was it worth to try and change Iraq?

    Read more: US-based Human Rights Group Says Iraq Is Becoming A 'police State' | Fox News

    BAGHDAD – Iraq's Shiite-led government cracked down harshly on dissent during the past year of Arab Spring uprisings, turning the country into a "budding police state" as autocratic regimes crumbled elsewhere in the region, an international rights groups said Sunday.
    I could really use a fish right now

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    I believe nobody doubts that there has been a lot of human rights abuse in Iraq. I question the integrity of that human rights group, though.
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    Oh, the sweet irony

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    It has been mentioned before that implementing a “western” type government or democratic values within a nation whose people are strongly divided either secularly or culturally is challenging at best.
    “If everything's under control, you're going too slow.” Mario Andretti

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rudy Tamasz
    I believe nobody doubts that there has been a lot of human rights abuse in Iraq. I question the integrity of that human rights group, though.
    On what grounds, precisely? The fact you were in favour of the war, perchance?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BDunnell
    On what grounds, precisely? The fact you were in favour of the war, perchance?
    You life will be much easier if you look at what's said and what's done without making assumptions.

    Just for the record I did not favor that war. I thought the U.S. had a perfect right to go to war if they faced a real threat to their security, but Saddam's regime just wasn't that dangerous. In short, the war was a mistake.

    Speaking of Human Rights Watch, they have a strong political bias and highly questionable fundraising practices. They are not a trustworthy resource on human rights for me. That said, I fully understand the grim situation with human rights in ante- and post-war Iraq.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rudy Tamasz
    Just for the record I did not favor that war. I thought the U.S. had a perfect right to go to war if they faced a real threat to their security, but Saddam's regime just wasn't that dangerous. In short, the war was a mistake.
    Fair enough. My apologies.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rudy Tamasz
    Speaking of Human Rights Watch, they have a strong political bias and highly questionable fundraising practices. They are not a trustworthy resource on human rights for me.
    Who is, then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BDunnell
    Who is, then?
    If I were engaged in dealing with this issue I would review and critically analyze multiple resources, even including this one. Then I would do the triangulation and try to come up with a more or less objective conclusion. I am not involved in Iraqi affairs in any way, though, and my interest is purely theoretical. It was more of a manifestation of the researcher's instinct to point my finger at an untrustworthy source. I won't pretend I know a precise and positive answer to your question, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rudy Tamasz
    If I were engaged in dealing with this issue I would review and critically analyze multiple resources, even including this one. Then I would do the triangulation and try to come up with a more or less objective conclusion.....
    What the hell are you doing on this forum then? :
    “If everything's under control, you're going too slow.” Mario Andretti

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    Quote Originally Posted by schmenke
    What the hell are you doing on this forum then? :
    Letting my dark side loose...
    Llibertat

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