M-Sport Ford World Rally Teams

[Simmi]

Spot on Lundefaret! He's basically being criticized for not ploughing his own hard-earned money back into a direct fight against manufacturers. A fight he knows he can not win. M-Sport could easily have walked away from the top level of the sport but have continually opted not to. And I'm massively thankful they haven't.

[Barreis]

Spot on Lundefaret! He's basically being criticized for not ploughing his own hard-earned money back into a direct fight against manufacturers. A fight he knows he can not win. M-Sport could easily have walked away from the top level of the sport but have continually opted not to. And I'm massively thankful they haven't.

But why didn't they? Malcolm knows very well if he leaves series, the only option will become GT. WRC is golden duck for him...

[Rally Power]

MSport footprint at WRC and on the global rally scene it’s now legendary.

Ok, he didn’t get Loeb and Ogier, but who can blame him for it? Ford leaved WRC for marketing reasons (when factories were closing down in Europe) but Wilson was able to secure their tech support and provide state of the art rally cars to customers around the world (they’re overpriced because of FIA rules).

For sure his (and our) aspiration was to see Ford coming back to WRC instead of joining RX field, but US Ford’s principals will realize (an WEC/LeMans fiasco can make it sooner than later) that the company right spot it’s on WRC, with MSport.

[Munkvy]

A quick look at Companies House shows:

https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/c...filing-history

That MSport is quite healthy. Not a large company, but certainly making a reasonable profit. Although of course filings are only to end of 2014.

[seb_sh]

I think anyone with a bit of maturity and understanding of what it means to run a business can only appreciate what MW has done. These cries about him getting rich are like teenager tantrums. Yes he most probably has a nice turnover from all the cars, parts and services M-Sport sells, and much of that is going back into growing the company. He has managed to remain in the WRC without manufacturer support only because that business exists and is able to generate enough income for him to spend on an expensive WRC participation.

But yeah it's quite easy to say on the internet he failed this and that while sitting in a comfy chair. I'm not his biggest fan and don't agree with some things he says or does but in any case I don't think you can call him a failure.

[RAS007]

I think anyone with a bit of maturity and understanding of what it means to run a business can only appreciate what MW has done. These cries about him getting rich are like teenager tantrums. Yes he most probably has a nice turnover from all the cars, parts and services M-Sport sells, and much of that is going back into growing the company. He has managed to remain in the WRC without manufacturer support only because that business exists and is able to generate enough income for him to spend on an expensive WRC participation.

But yeah it's quite easy to say on the internet he failed this and that while sitting in a comfy chair. I'm not his biggest fan and don't agree with some things he says or does but in any case I don't think you can call him a failure.

Good post. I agree that Wilson is not a failure, as a businessman or driver. It just bothers me, that it doesn't seem to bother him, that M-Sport are not competitive. I'm not sure why some of that turnover you talk about can't be used to pay a decent driver.

[janvanvurpa]

A quick look at Companies House shows:

https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/c...filing-history

That MSport is quite healthy. Not a large company, but certainly making a reasonable profit. Although of course filings are only to end of 2014.

Interesting reading there..
46.6 million English Squids in turnover.
Total tax paid on everything: zero! They got credit to carry forward against any future tax liability..

Guess the Pommie Parliament is as kind to companies as the US Congress is...

Zero taxes paid...

Wonder if Malcom uses the same accounting firms on his 250,000 quid salary?

[EightGear]

Interesting reading there..
46.6 million English Squids in turnover.
Total tax paid on everything: zero! They got credit to carry forward against any future tax liability..

Guess the Pommie Parliament is as kind to companies as the US Congress is...

Zero taxes paid...

Wonder if Malcom uses the same accounting firms on his 500,000 quid salary?

244.148, actually. The half a million is the total sum for all directors.

The 0 tax expense is because of the R&D Tax credit system, which was introduced to encourage companies to invest in R&D.
Profits can not be carried forward, only losses can. They did so in 2013 for 123.000 pounds.

[dimviii]

I'm not sure why some of that turnover you talk about can't be used to pay a decent driver.

why to pay a driver that could win a championship?
will he sell more r5?
will he sell more parts from all previous r5 grA wrc r2 etc rally cars?
will he rent/sell/service more wrc cars?
will ford ever will pay for a works comeback, if Msport can win world championsips without Ford money?
NOT is the answer for all these questions.
Malcolm doesnt care about to win a wrc title.
He just cares to be present at wrc.All the others comes ''easy way''
at previous talks i ve said that is the most clever man at wrc circus.Or maybe the man, who has the most profit, from this circus if you like.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Who are all these 'top drivers' that MW wouldn't pay for, apart from Loeb & Ogier (who were settled at Citroen and probably outbid for by VW, respectively) ?

Hirvonen ? Latvala ? Neuville ? Ostberg ?

MW has tried them.

He cant be expected to have employed Meeke, Sordo, Mikkelsen and Paddon at some point as well..