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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    Wilson and Ogier have both made it clear that Ford Performance will help to improve and develop the Fiesta. It's not a case of Ford just providing money for M-Sport to do it. FP have a huge amount of technical facilities and expertise and a lot is transferable to a rally car.
    Like I said above, I think you are underestimating M-Sport, Eddie. I'm not entirely convinced that Ford's performance department does have that many skills that M-Sport doesn't already have.

    Wilson and Ogier, I guess, will have to say that Ford are contributing from a technical POV, but M-sport created the car as it is and I think Ford could learn from them, not the other way around.

    Maybe I see Ford Performance as more of a sponsor, rather than a development partner.

    Still a win-win situation for both parties.

    Not entirely sure, but what contribution do Toyota make to the development of the Yaris? (I don't think it's a great deal) and that car has seen great success, considering it's age and the short history of Makkinen's operation, which runs it.

    I guess time will tell though and it will become more apparent, one way or the other as the season unfolds.

    Eddie, on another note; any idea where I can find spectator info for the Malcolm Wilson rally? Cheers.
    Last edited by T16; 4th February 2018 at 15:00.

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    Underestimating M-Sport is the last thing I'm doing, especially after what they achieved last year. As a long-time supporter I'm well aware of their qualities.

    But if Ogier says he needs Ford (Performance) to keep developing the car and make him stay then thats good enough for me.

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    February 24th Estonia has it's Independence day. Every year presidents gives out orders for notable people. This year one of the recipients is Malcolm Wilson

    Maarjamaa Cross V class
    Malcolm Irving Wilson


    Estonian motorsport supporter, United Kingdom
    Malcolm Wilson has played an important part in Estonian motorsport. He helped Markko Märtin as well
    Ott Tänäk to rally world stars. Giving the opportunity to thousands
    Estonians to spectate alongside rally tracks around the world
    and hundreds of thousands Estonians to follow
    their achievements through the media.
    http://www.delfi.ee/news/paevauudise...id?id=81008665

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    After Mexico, a Fiesta WRC will join the Ford Performance workshops in the USA to work on the aero and the engine. For Wilson, the car did not suffer a big évol for this start of the season, progress will be visible in the second part of the year.


    https://twitter.com/Traxx_WiF/status/962257538497605632

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    Ford Performance website now doing WRC preview:
    http://performance.ford.com/series/r...or-sweden.html
    #M-SPORTER

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    Maybe Ford Performance involvement should be main reason why WRC is thinking about adding rally in Canada?

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    https://twitter.com/Ovale_Bleu/statu...773219841?s=20

    https://twitter.com/SVrally/status/9...350588418?s=20

    When was the last time Ford brought three cars with identical liveries to a WRC event?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Watson View Post
    https://twitter.com/Ovale_Bleu/statu...773219841?s=20

    https://twitter.com/SVrally/status/9...350588418?s=20

    When was the last time Ford brought three cars with identical liveries to a WRC event?
    They're still not identical...

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    Quote Originally Posted by T16 View Post
    They're still not identical...
    Bean counter. The basic livery is identical. It's just a couple of different sponsors on Suninen's car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Watson View Post
    Bean counter. The basic livery is identical. It's just a couple of different sponsors on Suninen's car.
    ha ha... wasn't being pedantic... genuinely didn't know if you had spotted the rear qtr panel decals..

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