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    Quote Originally Posted by denkimi View Post
    Any team boss who doesn't try everything to sign ogier should be fired.

    Yes, he's not the most humble likable person. But he still is, by some margin, the best rally driver in the world.
    Having him in the team gives you a big starting advantage to win the title, having him in some other team gives you an immediate disadvantage.
    So anyone who's goal is to win the championship, should give first priority to signing ogier. Doing anything else severely reduces the chances of winning the title.
    Finally. Some people are more focused on harmony in the team than in trophies for the team.

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    im also very surprised by the fact that the other teams besides M-sport arent really interested or doing enough to get Ogier. Like mentioned here, the benefits with having him are huge.
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    Others are a lot more cheaper...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ESTR View Post
    Others are a lot more cheaper...
    You get what you pay for. Sign Ogier and you'll most likely win championships...

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    Hyundai offer him (too) little money, Toyota din't offer him anything (he called them and get rejected), Citroen offer him some money (some says that a little low), M-Sport boss now says that he can't afford him because that means he will risk his company.

    I think that he doesn't have another option now that except or get out.. Soon Malcolm will close the doors, he get him, prove everything and that's it.

    He is still dependent of teams and that's why I think nobody will sign him in the future if he will making his own terms.

    We will see in the future in like 10 or 20 years if he will run some manufacturer team that he will be in their position...

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    As I've mentioned before, his management contacted Toyota after Finland and he was rejected.

    When Ogier first tested he wanted something around 8 million to drive for Toyota and offered to help them develop the car since he felt it needed a ton of work. His arrogance actually offended the team along with Akio himself. They also feel he will not fit well with the Japanese/Finnish mentality.

    I would not be surprised if he is offering to develop the C3 (perfect opportunity considering their misfortunes) in return for good money, but Citroen might not have boat loads of development money on top of Ogiers salary.

    On a side note, the C3 is doing a lot better after more tweaks. Lets see how Meeke and Breen do in Wales.
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    Has anyone started a 'give a little', patreon etc to help Malcom pay Ogier's wages for another year?

    Could Ogier do a 'Loeb retirement' and go touring car racing?
    I see that the 2019 DTM is going to run 2 litre turbo engines, could Ogier spend 2018 in low key touring car training (TCR, 24hrs at the Ring etc) to go to Audi in the 2019 DTM? Seb could spend 2018 close to home and any manufacturer duties in 2019 would be Europe based and not too far from home?
    https://www.motorsport.com/dtm/news/...n-year-962694/

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    Nahhh he recently said in an interview rally is the best sport and is what he wants to focus on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ESTR View Post
    Hyundai offer him (too) little money, Toyota din't offer him anything (he called them and get rejected), Citroen offer him some money (some says that a little low), M-Sport boss now says that he can't afford him because that means he will risk his company.

    I think that he doesn't have another option now that except or get out.. Soon Malcolm will close the doors
    Malcolm will not close doors for Ogier...

    If Seb in the day of entry closing of Monte tells to Malcolm that he want drive, he will get car for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by racerx1979 View Post
    When Ogier first tested he wanted something around 8 million to drive for Toyota and offered to help them develop the car since he felt it needed a ton of work. His arrogance actually offended the team along with Akio himself. They also feel he will not fit well with the Japanese/Finnish mentality.
    Mate, you make it sound like there was an option for him just to drive the car and not bother if it stinks; making it competitive wasnt part of the job? Come on

    Besides being the most competent driver around Ogier is also the most committed. People should remember FX Demaison words: VWs original plan was to take a full season to turn the Polo into a winner but Ogier relentlessly pushed the whole team to guarantee itd win from the first outing.

    Honestly, this constant talk about drivers apparent character flaws sucks. Rally isnt a popularity contest; its a brave competition decided in the stages and top drivers need to be tough in every fair way. Like in real life, no one wins just for being a nice guy.
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