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    Quote Originally Posted by sollitt View Post
    Perhaps an understandable assertion to make NOT but probably 180 degrees wrong direction.

    If you know Paddon at all, you'll know that his goal is not to win one WRC event but to become champion. No one is more committed or driven to achieve that goal than he. If anything, rather than setting the bar too low he may have been setting it too high and failed to recognize both the enormity of his achievements to that time and the degree to which his own efforts and abilities were responsible for them.
    What are you talking about? By what measure is he more committed than anyone else? How would we know?

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    Tanak is committed too is he not?
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    Not to mention Lappi and Suninen who tend to be too depressive about every small thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Watson View Post
    What are you talking about? By what measure is he more committed than anyone else? How would we know?
    He was replying to a village idiot comment claiming that Paddon cares more about social media than driving and thinks he doesn't need to improve.

    In any case, sollitt didn't say Paddon is more committed than the others, just that the others aren't more committed than him

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    Quote Originally Posted by GravelBen View Post
    sollitt didn't say Paddon is more committed than the others, just that the others aren't more committed than him
    Is that some mind game to measure equal in weight statements, or just everyone is equally desperate against the current champion?
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    To suggest that "no one is more committed, dedicated, ...." is simply an often used colloquialism in English speaking countries to describe someone who is on board 100%. It in no way declares that others are not similarly committed.

    NOT's post suggests that, having achieved the win in Argentina, Paddon had climbed his Everest and was content to lower his personal expectations and bask in the sunshine of social media fame and glory.

    My view, and it is a personal and completely uncorroborated view, is that the opposite is the case. That so intent was he on continued development in pursuit of higher achievement that he sought counsel from untried and unproven theorists rather than rely on the factors that brought about his ascendancy ... his own efforts, ability and tenacity. And that doing so may have contributed to his derailment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stefanvv View Post
    Is that some mind game to measure equal in weight statements, or just everyone is equally desperate against the current champion?
    Just pointing out what sollitt actually said, which could be taken either way.

    I know they all work hard to get there and stay competitive, but I do think that Paddon has had to work harder than most to get to WRC coming from the other side of the world and not having the established sponsorship / contacts / management / career process many European drivers do.

    If you think about the difference between Paddon's road to WRC and (for example) a Finnish driver being managed by someone like Jouhki from a young age - most of what Jouhki has done for the drivers he manages, Hayden has had to do for himself without having the contacts already and while having to focus on his own driving and development at the same time.

    Sorry, I'm getting a bit off-topic for an M-Sport thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by N.O.T View Post
    his daddys pockets will decide the future...
    Wrong again as usual. Elfyn Evans father now just runs an average Ford dealer in Dolgellau and has never been able to fund his son's rallying career. Elfyn just works there part-time.

    From The Telegraph 2017 -

    "My dad drummed into me how there was no certainty of having a career in rallying. It was to be a hobby, nothing else.

    I started winning properly in 2008. We had a deal where if I wanted to move up, I had to dominate the class in the current level. And that was how my career began. We always aimed for the championships with prize money or with opportunities; motorsport is always expensive and we tried to make it as cost-effective as we could.

    I was never the best at finding sponsorship money. But that’s why we went down the route of trying to win a prize, and for that to propel us into the next class."
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    Neither Elfyn or Kris have much hope raising sponsorship if they lost their drives. It always slightly amused me when people suggested Kris should pay for a WRC drive when he was in the wilderness - what with?? There ain't no money in the UK for sponsoring WRC drives. That's the main reason he lost the MINI WRC drive - and Dani continued.
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    Just wondering wich drivers are not comitted than?

    I think they all know how lucky they are to get a chanse.

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