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    Quote Originally Posted by BigWorm View Post
    I doubt it though, didn't he put up his car for sale?
    If he drove his own car, it wouldn't be an M-Sport fourth car, right? I mean he would rent a new Fiesta from M-Sport for certain events and tape it to OneBet livery. I think he would get better results with the improvements M-Sport has made to their cars and the proper service. He had a bunch of retirements last year that were technical faults already fixed on the M-Sport cars, his private car not having the updates. It probably would had been better if he had rented the car all along...

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    If he drove his own car, it wouldn't be an M-Sport fourth car, right? I mean he would rent a new Fiesta from M-Sport for certain events and tape it to OneBet livery. I think he would get better results with the improvements M-Sport has made to their cars and the proper service. He had a bunch of retirements last year that were technical faults already fixed on the M-Sport cars, his private car not having the updates. It probably would had been better if he had rented the car all along...
    He was entered as M-Sport in 2017 but that was just how regulations were so I guess it wasn't a fourth car (unlike the Suninen/Kremer entries?).

    I don't know what it costs to rent the car, but if he's planning to do a lot of events would it be cheaper to rent a Fiesta WRC than buying it?

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    Most definitely cheaper. Pay money and arrive with two hands in his pockets to testing/rally and after go home. No need for personnel, special equipment, equipment, their logistics etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigWorm View Post
    He was entered as M-Sport in 2017 but that was just how regulations were so I guess it wasn't a fourth car (unlike the Suninen/Kremer entries?).
    True, only registered factory teams were allowed to enter WRC2017 cars, but that changes for this year. However, Østberg had his own team, own mechanics and everything. Suninen was an M-Sport paying driver for the whole season (just alternating between R5 and WRC car) whereas Kremer just rented the car for one event. Suninen's car had an M-Sport livery with just added sponsor decals, Kremer had his own sponsor livery. Not sure about Bertelli, if he had his own mechanics or through M-Sport.

    I don't know what it costs to rent the car, but if he's planning to do a lot of events would it be cheaper to rent a Fiesta WRC than buying it?
    Not sure about the cost, but he probably would have received better value for his money by renting. I'm pretty convinced he lost podium positions by defects that wouldn't have happened in the official cars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    True, only registered factory teams were allowed to enter WRC2017 cars, but that changes for this year. However, Østberg had his own team, own mechanics and everything. Suninen was an M-Sport paying driver for the whole season (just alternating between R5 and WRC car) whereas Kremer just rented the car for one event. Suninen's car had an M-Sport livery with just added sponsor decals, Kremer had his own sponsor livery. Not sure about Bertelli, if he had his own mechanics or through M-Sport.



    Not sure about the cost, but he probably would have received better value for his money by renting. I'm pretty convinced he lost podium positions by defects that wouldn't have happened in the official cars.
    What ever happened to Bertelli? He's been gone since Portugal and I've no idea where he's gone.

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    Considering Suninen skips Tour de Corse and Deutschland, those are probably for Eric Camilli? Maybe he's going for a similar program as Suninen did in 2017, WRC2 with two strongest rallies in WRC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve.mandzij View Post
    What ever happened to Bertelli? He's been gone since Portugal and I've no idea where he's gone.
    He had a long break. But he was driving Tuscan Rewind in November last year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve.mandzij View Post
    What ever happened to Bertelli?
    As long as he's not driving one of the 2017/2018-spec WRC's, I'm happy no matter where he is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    Considering Suninen skips Tour de Corse and Deutschland, those are probably for Eric Camilli? Maybe he's going for a similar program as Suninen did in 2017, WRC2 with two strongest rallies in WRC.
    I can imagine Bouffier doing that for example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira View Post
    I can imagine Bouffier doing that for example.
    It's just that Camilli announced earlier that he will be doing a mix of WRC2 and WRC this year. But yeah, why not Bouffier either.

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