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    I know I'm last to this party but ABOUT BLEEDING TIME they came to M-sports side.
    Malcolm (and Ogier) worked waaaay too hard for this and boy have they earned it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    MW knows that the chances of a second Manu's title in 2018 are very slim anyway, with Hyundai and Toyota strengthening.

    So with no #3 driver available with enough funding for a full season, it looks like MS-RT will have a two-car team only.

    Unless there is still a surprise coming...
    When M-Sport announced Ogier & Evans as drivers they said news on 3rd car would be coming in next few weeks. A third car will not be a surprise. Who will drive third car may be a surprise.

    Ford will be more interested in manufacturer title than driver title. Hyundai & Toyota will get a fight from M-Sport Ford WRT for 2018 manufacturer title
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    Ostberg/Suninen/Camilli all of them also in WRC2. Others are not logical at all.

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    That's a good news. Now I'm sure more than one manager will regret to not have taken the chance to hire the only one capable of winning a championship. Their team "balance" is safe and everybody is friend, and also the shelf with trophies will not have any change to its balance since it will likely remain the same.

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    The team balance might be key. Ogier and Evans seem to be good pals because Evans admires Ogier, is eager to learn from him and won't try to mess up his party whereas I can already smell major fallouts between Neuville/Mikkelsen and JML/Tanak. We know Neuville's temper and JML has weak nerves unless he is the clear teamleader, now they both have teammates that can seriously challenge them.

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    my self im soo much Happy for Malcom. These are the people who keep rallying running. im Glad Ford has come back. i know Ogier will get some challenge on 2018, but they have a better chance ford sims rigid enough to manage to hold up.

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    I wonder if we celebrate too early.

    From the Autosport article on the matter, I wonder if they actually give them any money at all... this just seems like more free sponsorship from Malcolm. This line is what threw me off (interview with MW):
    "We welcome the increased level of technical support from Ford Performance."

    Technical? Not a huge bag of friggin money? I mean, really? They will give them some free body shells so they can build more R5 and R2 cars?

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    Good, glad I'm not the only one that's seen a bit of an over-reaction to this news.

    In essence we're talking about a four-letter word on an entry list. It doesn't suddenly mean Ford are 'back'. I don't know but I assume M-Sport could probably have called themselves this since 2013 if they'd chosen to?

    Seems like a nod from M-Sport to acknowledge that Ford Performance technical support which should help with updates. I guess you could call it an 'official return' - but it's not really is it. Don't get me wrong it's better than nothing, but it's baby steps.
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    I don't even want to know how much money Ford needs to pay to have you guys happy
    And now that Malcolm has brought M-Sport already to this stage I don't event believe that he is willing to let Ford to take the lead anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KiwiWRCfan View Post
    When M-Sport announced Ogier & Evans as drivers they said news on 3rd car would be coming in next few weeks. A third car will not be a surprise. Who will drive third car may be a surprise.

    Ford will be more interested in manufacturer title than driver title. Hyundai & Toyota will get a fight from M-Sport Ford WRT for 2018 manufacturer title
    So you expect a full-time 3rd car and driver... who and who's paying ?

    And if Ford are 'more interested in manufacturer title than driver title' why are they just giving greater technical support, not a full factory support ?

    If they were, they would have had to get serious and paid for Tanak to stay.
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