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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    Red Bull have sponsored for a long time but always the top drivers who are dominant and who's success is virtually guaranteed.

    They arent there for the poorer drivers/teams and do they do anything for grass-roots rallying ?

    They are like a flat-track bully.

    Plus I hear that their football teams are despised in all the leagues they are playing in.

    https://www.theguardian.com/football...erman-football
    Sordo
    Evans
    Lefebvre
    Molinaro
    Cetinkaya
    Aigner
    Sandell
    Hanninen

    To name just a few. These are'dominant' drivers for whom success is 'guaranteed'?

    I don't think those words mean what you think they do....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    Red Bull have sponsored for a long time but always the top drivers who are dominant and who's success is virtually guaranteed.

    They arent there for the poorer drivers/teams and do they do anything for grass-roots rallying ?

    They are like a flat-track bully.

    Plus I hear that their football teams are despised in all the leagues they are playing in.

    https://www.theguardian.com/football...erman-football
    Sordo
    Evans
    Lefebvre
    Molinaro
    Cetinkaya
    Aigner
    Sandell
    Hanninen

    To name just a few. These are'dominant' drivers for whom success is 'guaranteed'?

    I don't think those words mean what you think they do....

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    hmmmm....He didnt sound very optimistic to me about keeping Ogier and also in winning. "we hope to get some success and wins etc"
    Tänak: "Better than I expected. Lots of sideways - and we enjoy that."

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    Sounds like it was M-Sport 'financials' that were put in to get Ogier contracted just for 2017.

    Then if/when some good resuls come they hope new sponsors will come in (even Ford) for 2018 and beyond.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EstWRC View Post
    hmmmm....He didnt sound very optimistic to me about keeping Ogier and also in winning. "we hope to get some success and wins etc"
    He's quietly confident though and that's all he can be when no-one knows how their car compares with the others...

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    Quote Originally Posted by EstWRC View Post
    hmmmm....He didnt sound very optimistic to me about keeping Ogier and also in winning. "we hope to get some success and wins etc"
    MW must realize that the major downside to having Ogier is that if the wins don't come now, they never will.

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    The main problem is the quantity of pre event tests that they are doing. While the other teams are testing almost every week, m-sport only tested a pair of weeks.

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    M-sport can be compared only to Hyundai(and VW 2016) as they are the only ones with same test regulations. Toyota and Citroen could test as much as they wanted last season.
    Once this season officially has started test regulations are same for everyone.

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    is this final full season for Evans at top level?! he must be at Tanak's 2016 level at least

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