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    So Red Bull is personal sponsor of Sébastien Ogier, Elfyn Evans and the future (?) Kalle Rovanpëra M-Sport drivers. Maybe the answer to Malcolm Wilson "problems" are the called (by me) Red Bull M-Sport WRT.

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    That might not be enough money for 2nd top driver (Tanak or Mikkelsen), so that would be Ogier + Evans cheaply + Suninen for free or some paydriver (Camilli).

    Little chance in manu-championship vs Hyundai and Toyota + Ogier alone might struggle with further car development and with having someone to compare with. Don't like that much.

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    Reb Bull team like F1, not a simple sponsor... that could work

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    Difficult convice Ford like this


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    https://twitter.com/MSportLtd/status/899139191568826368

    Just 50 more kilometres to go @ADACRallye! Wish us luck, this one would mean a lot... #WRC #ADACRallye ��
    would mean a lot? hmm...

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    So, MSport is almost manus champ and Ogier is also the best placed to become drivers champ; if Ford doesn’t full support MSport next year, I hope Mr. Wilson can be able to look for manu support elsewhere…he deserves better!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rally Power View Post
    So, MSport is almost manus champ and Ogier is also the best placed to become drivers champ; if Ford doesn’t full support MSport next year, I hope Mr. Wilson can be able to look for manu support elsewhere…he deserves better!
    he will not.... ford expertise makes him rich and thats what counts.

    Plus he managed to win both titles without any support why he would need it ?

    the other teams are nothing when it comes to drivers.
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    Seriously people, you need to calm down. That team is out there because Ford WANTS it to be out there. Does it really matter if they are gonna have a bit bigger Blue Oval stickers or not? Results are what matter. And for Ford the current deal is fine. If they want to invest more to keep the team as it is, it's up to the higher ups in Dearborn. For me, as long as the cars are out there, sometimes with more and some times with less chance of winning, it's great.

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    Maybe M-Sport needs Ford more than Ford needs M-Sport? Isn't it still the manufacturer that needs to give an approval to homologate a new rallycar? See the struggle with the Mitsubishi R5 for example... M-Sport has built a very successful business with hundreds of R5 cars (not even mentioning WRC, S2000 and R2 cars) competing around the world. They must make a decent profit from all cars/parts sold and maintained. But, if Ford decides to stop approving the rally programme, and doesn't give their approval for next homologations, the story could stop... Or am I wrong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by macebig View Post
    And for Ford the current deal is fine
    For Ford is great, for sure. They only provide tech support and MSport does all the hard work, including getting the running budget. Besides, there's no rational argument on why they're backing WRX and not WRC.

    No doubt MSport needs to have Ford tech support, but as rally fans can't we ask for Ford's WRC return as a manu or wish that MSport could find a more involved partner?
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