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    But they had podiums from each event and One should remember that it was his luck and consistency that brought him the title. All had a few better places grabbed by tech. issues also. Well, the last part also applies to others, but were more related to all cars, not one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tarmop View Post
    But they had podiums from each event and One should remember that it was his luck and consistency that brought him the title. All had a few better places grabbed by tech. issues also. Well, the last part also applies to others, but were more related to all cars, not one.
    that Ogier managed to capitilise at rallies with weak performance due to others mistakes,is a different story.
    Fiesta had a lot of weak rallies in terms of performance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cali View Post
    Ogier's pace for me is not convincing.
    With three wins out of six rallies?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dimviii View Post
    that Ogier managed to capitilise at rallies with weak performance due to others mistakes,is a different story.
    Fiesta had a lot of weak rallies in terms of performance.
    Thing is even with "weak" performance Ogier was still 3-5 even without mistakes of others ( Argentina, Spain etc.). Also while Ogier did indeed have weak performance often, others with the same car often did well in same rally - Tanak in Poland before crash, Tanak again in Sardinia, Evans in Finland etc.

    Nothing like Hyundai in Finland imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    With three wins out of six rallies?
    He's on a declining trend and out if these 3 wins one was in tarmac and the other was Monte where he has been unbeatable for years. Most of the rallies are in loose surface

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    He was doing quite ok before his latest and quite rare error. Sweden was a nightmare for the whole top three and Ogier took the worst hit. Argentina ended with another solid 4+ 4 PS points. Cars are more equal than in the VW days. Can`t say he is lacking pace or declining, not at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mknight View Post
    Thing is even with "weak" performance Ogier was still 3-5 even without mistakes of others ( Argentina, Spain etc.). Also while Ogier did indeed have weak performance often, others with the same car often did well in same rally - Tanak in Poland before crash, Tanak again in Sardinia, Evans in Finland etc.

    Nothing like Hyundai in Finland imo.
    you like to play with words.
    2 stage wins more than Meeke,5 less from Evans for champion Ogier
    But ''nothing like Hyundai in Finland'' while Ogier was outperformed at half rallies of season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mknight View Post
    Also while Ogier did indeed have weak performance often, others with the same car often did well in same rally - Tanak in Poland before crash, Tanak again in Sardinia, Evans in Finland etc.
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    Ogier was first on the road. In Poland he did have a spin of his own, but in Sardegna most of his time loss was due to a puncture. Finland it's hard to tell because Ogier only did three stages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cali View Post
    He's on a declining trend and out if these 3 wins one was in tarmac and the other was Monte where he has been unbeatable for years. Most of the rallies are in loose surface
    I would consider Ogier a favourite for Sardegna, now that he's not first on the road.

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    Yes as usual he was first on the road most of the season. In a very closely matched field this had big effect on stagewins.

    Also this was about Fiesta, not only Ogier, ref. what I wrote about Tanak and Evans often doing well when Ogier did not. (off course DMACK is factor)

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