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Thread: Ott Tänak - Future champion?
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17th January 2023, 06:49 #821
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17th January 2023, 07:06 #822
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I do not get why all Russians on this planet must be responsible for something their president is doing...
Nevertheless, this thread is about Ott, do not hijack it please.
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17th January 2023, 07:34 #823
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Thank you!!!
For others, a constructive reply. As a disclaimer: I'm not Gryazin's fan at all, but the ridiculous statements just make me furious, because people connect culture/art to politics again, making a blanket responsibility for the actions of the regime.
1) It's not Kremlin what you see on the helmet, i.e. not the government stronghold.
2) At best, it's Saint Basil's Cathedral, an official UNESCO World Heritage Site and a symbol of orthodox culture for over 5 centuries.
3) Even that is quite stretched, because the outlines on the helmet don't copy it exactly, and it's rather just symbolizes the orthodox architecture style, easily recognized by the very peculiar dome shapes.
For avoidance of doubt, and regardless of the current church division, orthodox belief and architecture style is also the same in Ukraine and several other slavic countries.
So as someone else earlier gave an example of Afganistan: blaming Gryazin for using outlines of an orthodox church on his helmet (which is obviously part of the culture) is like banning the use of crescent on the helmets of all muslim drivers only because of some terrorists.
Be more tolerant, please. After all, the motorsport (and sport in general) should unite despite the politics.
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17th January 2023, 08:14 #824
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And all this shit on Tanaks thread?
Good job folks
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18th January 2023, 05:36 #825
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https://www.is.fi/ralli/art-2000009332808.html
So how about this, Timo Jouhki reveals he tried to sign Tänak in 2010. Just before signing the proposed 10-year contract with Jouhki, Tänak asked if he could review the conditions together with Markko Märtin. Jouhki was fine with that approach, but obviously there was something Märtin and Tänak didn't like as no deal was ever made. Jouhki had even negotiated a SWRC program for 2011 with M-Sport, but admits that Tänak eventually managed to get a similar program on his own.
Jouhki didn't like the way the Toyota exit was handled (I guess few did) and believes Tänak would have more than just one title by now had he stayed with TGR.
That's an interesting question, just how many more titles would Tänak have, had he signed with Don Timo in 2010?ku ois neljä pyörää ku vetäis ni ois vähän eri sekunnit kyllä pätkillä, sen mä takaan
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18th January 2023, 05:58 #826
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He probably would have more titles by staying in Toyota, that can be claimed with some certainty.
But speculating what would have happened if he signed different manager in 2010 is completely pointless.
It's not like everyone Joukhi signs gets a title either. More like everyone he signed between Makinen and Rovanpera failed one way or another.
Hirvonen was close multiple times, even though his Subaru start was a disaster (like Tanaks MSport start). Latvala was never close (Neuville was much closer 3 times already) and Suninen didn't even win a rally (yet?).
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18th January 2023, 06:45 #827
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18th January 2023, 07:01 #828
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18th January 2023, 08:04 #829
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18th January 2023, 10:04 #830
I don't know anything about "attacking" but here is one article where Märtin talks about it
https://sport.delfi.ee/artikkel/8815...ja-palju-valet
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https://youtu.be/FtNH7gtRVpw
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