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    This video is not new but haven't found it before. It's onboard footage of Pontus Tidemand from Rally China. The first Fabia R5 onboard with telemetry data I have seen:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfbSmb8CeAc
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    Quote Originally Posted by dimviii View Post
    this can be fixed with software.
    Solely? Because of the new pop-off valve?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RS View Post
    Solely? Because of the new pop-off valve?
    yep, these two in conjuction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dimviii View Post
    yep, these two in conjuction.
    It will be interesting to see the results of that. But no changes to the transmission? That also seems like a weak link on the PSA cars.

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    There was a lot of critisism of Peugeot 208 T16 here. We saw all the failures of this car in the ERC and other championships. I think on the last weekend it also didn't manage to finish Circuit of Ireland Rally. But... let's take a look at the results of Sanremo Rally from the last weekend:

    1. Paolo Andreucci/Anna Andreussi (I) Peugeot 208 T16 1:46.31,1
    2. Alessandro Perico/Mauro Turati (I) Peugeot 208 T16 +1.39,5
    3. Simone Campedelli/Danilo Fappani (I) Peugeot 208 T16 +3.06,0

    If it is such a bad car, how is this possible?

    http://www.rallymadness.prv.pl - rally photos and movies!

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    Andreucci is the best and all the others had problems?

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrRzSInXC7g

    Škoda motorsport test (Jan Kopecký) 8.4. 2016

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    Quote Originally Posted by dimviii View Post
    yep, these two in conjuction.
    PSA uses a lot different engine configuration than others, particularly the PSA engine is 1.6 already in series whereas others use bigger blocks with shortened stroke. As a result both Fabia and Fiesta have very similar bore/stroke ratio as their WRC counterparts with fully purpose-built units (that tells me that they have near-optimal configuration). PSA engine has a lot longer stroke but in the same time less robust smaller engine block.

    Anyway I don't know why longer stroke of PSA means that the car has big peak power but lacks torque but it is like that. Maybe Br21 knows as he has experience with all of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek View Post
    Anyway I don't know why longer stroke of PSA means that the car has big peak power but lacks torque but it is like that. Maybe Br21 knows as he has experience with all of them.
    could it be as simple as physics? as ridiculous it may sounds physics is simple....
    "With that car, your brain can actually never keep up"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4IRMYuE1hI

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    If it's simple than tell me why?

    Simple logic says it shall be exactly opposite.
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