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    Are there differences btw the Citroen and Peugeots in the front and back axels and suspension, or are they duplicates here?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sulland View Post
    Are there differences btw the Citroen and Peugeots in the frant and back axels and suspension, or are they duplicates here?
    yes they are. very very close



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    Both PSA cars are almost identical. Only differences are the parts you see - bodyshell plus bumpers, doors, etc. From parts you can't see different is propshaft (longer in Peugeot) and rear diff protection. All other the same.

    Fiesta has best chassis and suspension, now with new evolution of the engine it should be really competitive. Fabia is good as total package, but as for now not many spare parts available, very expensive to run and not easy to adapt for the driver as plenty of "special" parts. Recently I had worked with Citroen, and I'm positively surprised. We did a lot of kms of tests and no single issue with the car, now with new pop-off you can use strongest engine map and absolutely no problems, didn't open even once. For tarmac it's very good car, in April there should be big new homologation for crucial parts, so should be better/more reliable. It's really like race car, reacts for setup changes like race car, etc. With very short wheelbase it's pretty nervous, but also not "lazy" with reactions. It's typical tarmac car, not well suited for gravel...

    Hyundai is in very early stage of development, so I really doubt it will be ready mid year.

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    Thanks for a good answer br21, do you think the little difference in wheelbase where T16 being 100mm longer, makes it less nervous on gravel?

    Why does the T16 have longer driveshafts, I guess the diffs/box are the same, or are any of the distances btw wheels on either front/rear also different?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sulland View Post
    Thanks for a good answer br21, do you think the little difference in wheelbase where T16 being 100mm longer, makes it less nervous on gravel?

    Why does the T16 have longer driveshafts, I guess the diffs/box are the same, or are any of the distances btw wheels on either front/rear also different?
    The propshaft is longer (because of the +100mm in wheelbase), not the driveshafts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TWRC View Post
    The propshaft is longer (because of the +100mm in wheelbase), not the driveshafts.
    Sorry my mistake. Thought driveshaft and propshaft was the same, and that the axle btw front and reas was the countershaft.

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    Yes, for sure longer wheelbase helps a lot with stability on gravel

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    What about wheeltravel in gravel set-up on the twins. Is there a big difference btw them and the Ford and Skoda, or more or less the same?

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    I don't know the suspension travel of PSA cars as I only run them on tarmac. But for sure it's not only about the travel, there are many more important things to have good gravel car.

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    At least 39 Ford Fiesta R5 competing this weekend. IMPRESSIVE

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