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    Don“t get me wrong Mirek, it is necessary to take it seriously, but I just mean there are lot of various business strategies. IMHO guys with Mitsu will have smaller budget in comparison with PSA Ford and Skoda, but I believe they know where are their limits and they will act wisely with some kind of strategy and invention...that is the best we can pray for ;-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rally Power View Post
    Ketomaa there to help Joćo or any plans to run with P&B Racing?
    Driving "lessons"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira View Post
    Driving "lessons"

    I think it may be new tires (Dmack) to Joćo Barros.


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    Quote Originally Posted by dodge33cymru View Post
    How much are those Swedish-built Mitsubishi R5s going for?
    170.000€

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek View Post
    It doesn't work like that. See... there were virtually tons of supercheap Puntos S2000 but nobody was driving them simply because those were not competitive. If this car is not competitive against the rival R5 it will disappear quickly. Slow cars can exist only in one-make cups.
    from what I know and read, the main problem was due to the fact that punto s2000 is very very difficult to drive i.e. reach the car's limit and also very tough to set-up properly

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    Quote Originally Posted by manthey View Post
    from what I know and read, the main problem was due to the fact that punto s2000 is very very difficult to drive i.e. reach the car's limit and also very tough to set-up properly
    You didn't get the point.

    What I meant is that it doesn't matter if some car is cheaper than others if it's not competitive (difficulty to drive/set-up is part of that). Many tried with cheaper cars but all failed - only from S2000 You can take Proton, MG, Corsa or Polo as other examples. All of them were reasonably cheaper than up-to date Fabia/207/Fiesta. R5/S2000 cars are all top-national/European level machinery. You don't buy such car to make others laugh about You. If You want to drive just for fun it's better to buy an old WRC instead and make some show...

    Even if You go to lower classes You can find examples like 207 R3T which was a car made for one-make cup therefore cheaper but slower than others. Besides those one-make cups very few driver bought the car.

    Rallying is still a sport and performance is the most important thing about any car. It's a circle. How can You get more sponsors if You don't have good results? For good results You must have a good car. It's just like that.
    Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump

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    BREAKING NEWS! First big success of Peugeot 208 T16! Paolo Andreucci wins Rally Due Valli and is the new Italian Rally Champion! It's amazing, but Ucci was leading from stage 2 until the finish line, won 5 stages out of 11 and his 208 didn't break down! Congratulations!

    Rally Due Valli - final results:
    1. P. ANDREUCCI PEUGEOT 208 T16
    2. G. BASSO +21.8 FORD FIESTA R5 LDI
    3. U. SCANDOLA +1'21.3 SKODA FABIA S2000

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    I 've read on motorsport monday that there is a posibility to be imposed smaller restrictor to rrc cars(-1mm) obviously because these cars are faster compared to r5s.
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    bring back acropolis rally to wrc calendar

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    Yes, I heard this is planned at least for WRC events.
    Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump

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    Great video from that Trojįk test of Fabia R5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCcM2ZRaKLo

    Second shot of the video is the corner where Breen crashed during Barum.
    Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump

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