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    there is nothing confirmed for ypres if they can start or not

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    If Thierry drive it,will be as zero car.But we don't know anything else..
    Petter we want u back in WRC

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    Has this video been posted here earlier?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c01AI...ature=youtu.be
    “Don’t eat the yellow snow” Frank Zappa

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    What s the pricing going to be on the R5 cars. I heard it s going over the 200.000 euro s also. Why make the cars so expensive.

    Seat sport can make a fantastic wide body race car for aproxx 80.000 euro.

    It would make the rally sport so much bigger if they could build a 4wd rally car with very low maintance cost for under 100.000 euro.

    Group N is almost death we need someting to replace it for the same sort of money and 4wd.

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    I heard the Fiesta price is around 280.000! But in the plus side, renting a R5 is somehow cheaper than renting a Subaru R4 for example...

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdvEvo
    What s the pricing going to be on the R5 cars. I heard it s going over the 200.000 euro s also. Why make the cars so expensive.

    Seat sport can make a fantastic wide body race car for aproxx 80.000 euro.

    It would make the rally sport so much bigger if they could build a 4wd rally car with very low maintance cost for under 100.000 euro.

    Group N is almost death we need someting to replace it for the same sort of money and 4wd.
    You can of course build cheap car for one make cups without competition from others such as the Seat however in rallying there is more than one brand involved so the development cost grows as high as the wealthiest player is able to spend. It's cheap to get on let's say 80% performance which is possible under some formula but every step further is more and more difficult and expensive. It may happen that creating a 5% faster car costs 4x more. It's just an example but it's like that.

    We can't compare with gr.N cars. That's something completely different, let's call it a relic of old times which will never come back. We shall stop dreaming about raising new gr.A era because the car market moved upside down through the years and there is no hunger for road-going rally cars anymore.

    What could help privateers is to allow free suppliers of particular parts if those comply with homologated dimensions and weights. However that will not be welcome by car makers who took the toll of development. Everyone can produce a cheap copy of something if he didn't need to take the expense of development.
    Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump

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    What are the chances for getting to see a Japanese R5 in the coming years?
    Would be good if at least 1 of the 3 japanese rally manufacturers would come back to top level again!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sulland
    What are the chances for getting to see a Japanese R5 in the coming years?
    Would be good if at least 1 of the 3 japanese rally manufacturers would come back to top level again!
    Toyota might be heading to it probably
    "With that car, your brain can actually never keep up"
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    But first out of competition in Ypres. Hope it's right.

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