Rally2 (ex-R5) News

[TWRC]

Bob de Jong has recently picked up a new chassis and the Evo kit from Citroën Racing.

[PLuto]

Looks like R5s will remain the top class of the ERC despite rumours about accepting old WRC cars.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report...-skoda-peugeot

There were NEVER plans to accept "old" WRC cars to ERC. There is agreement between FIA and Eurosport that R5 cars remain the highest class in ERC for few years.

[itix]

That would be a really silly idea...

For once I disagree with you... There will be loads of virtually unused wrc cars that are only accepted by some ASN's and that's it (unless FIA decides to make a stupid middle class for them basically throwing all the R5 rivalry out the window).

It would be a great opportunity both for wrc privateers (maybe even manus) and the ERC.

And yes of course I know it isn't realistic... But I think it would have been a good solution.

[Mirek]

I totally disagree, sorry.

What do You think You would achieve?

The guys who actually drive ERC would have to buy WRC cars to be able to compete with old WRC cars. For God's sake why? Once R5 was established as the main class for anything but WRC and all those people invested into R5 machinery to be able to use it in the regional championships. Now their investments would be in vain and they would need to buy new (in fact old and used) machines which are 2-3x more expensive to run? What is that good for?

How do You think the manufacturers would like the idea that old outdated cars would become a main class in the championship where they currently sell and therefore also promote a lot of new cars? Again why should that be any good?

R5 cars are relatively affordable just like the ERC events are. Still most of the guys struggle to find budget to run the whole season. WRC car costs approximately 2-3x more to run, so the same question again. Why shall it help the championship to introduce hugely expensive cars?

[itix]

It really wouldn't help anyone to have them just sit around to be used by no one... That's for sure so if not the ERC, maybe the TER then.

We are seeing a steady decline of competitors in the ERC and I believe this trend will continue unfortunately.

I agree that it certainly wouldn't help those currently participating but I think it would help the series as a whole.

[itix]

... Or maybe I'm wrong and all focus would be on the new world rally cars an the series would trip on its own costs.

Still, I don't like to see the old cars just go to waste. A looot of time and effort has been put into them.

Also they look heaps better than the - 17 cars we have seen so far.

[stefanvv]

How many current wrc cars You think there are out there, not many Polos I guess....

[itix]

The Polios were probably one chassis from Start to finish so yeah... Probably only the five something cars that vw built. Plenty of DS3 and Fiestas though.

[stefanvv]

The Polios were probably one chassis from Start to finish so yeah... Probably only the five something cars that vw built. Plenty of DS3 and Fiestas though.

Probably mostly Fiestas, that would be almost 1 make cup, Wilson will be happy.

[pantealex]

ERC2 has about 5 entries/event and as you all know it´s for GrN Mitsu/Subaru. How many those type of cars there are in europe?

Some of you really think that old WRC will be huge success? RRC is same car than WRC and there were never more than 3 of them in ERC.