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    In the database there is ca 300 S2000 sold, and soon the same number of R5s. That has happened fast, and shows the class potential.

    The Mirage is close to the top R5 speed, so Mitsubishi should say yes to homologation, they will not loose face on doing that. On the contrary they will get a new rally car representing their brand for free!

    If Loebs 208 team with new parts succeeds, Peugeot will sell many upgrade kits, and also new cars.
    It seems that the DS3 is a tarmac car only, and no good on gravel.
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    How do You know that the car as it is is all according to homologation regulations for R5?
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    As far as i read, the only issue was the metal in the rollcage.

    Are you aware of more?
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    No, I'm not but I know that even those who actually homologated R5 cars faced a lot of issues during the whole process and I can't believe a car which wasn't built in permanent contact with FIA can be all right according to the rules. It might be details but we don't know them and how much affect on performance they have. Simply I would be careful in judgments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by M5 View Post
    In the database there is ca 300 S2000 sold, and soon the same number of R5s. That has happened fast, and shows the class potential.

    The Mirage is close to the top R5 speed, so Mitsubishi should say yes to homologation, they will not loose face on doing that. On the contrary they will get a new rally car representing their brand for free!

    If Loebs 208 team with new parts succeeds, Peugeot will sell many upgrade kits, and also new cars.
    It seems that the DS3 is a tarmac car only, and no good on gravel.
    Rumour has Tagai Racing Technology has already ordered 3 208 T16 Evos, two completed cars, and one in pieces. Either they have a lot of faith, or that update will be good indeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek View Post
    No, I'm not but I know that even those who actually homologated R5 cars faced a lot of issues during the whole process and I can't believe a car which wasn't built in permanent contact with FIA can be all right according to the rules. It might be details but we don't know them and how much affect on performance they have. Simply I would be careful in judgments.
    Could there be that any of the Swedes or any connected to Spencer Sport that has insight on the homologation process on the Mirage?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek View Post
    No, I'm not but I know that even those who actually homologated R5 cars faced a lot of issues during the whole process and I can't believe a car which wasn't built in permanent contact with FIA can be all right according to the rules. It might be details but we don't know them and how much affect on performance they have. Simply I would be careful in judgments.
    That means FIA is not working to make progress for the rallysport. If you don´t have them on your side you´re finished, is that so? Rules are rules and those you can read, when building a car. Seems just rotten bureaucracy and collecting money to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sulland View Post
    Could there be that any of the Swedes or any connected to Spencer Sport that has insight on the homologation process on the Mirage?
    The Mirage is built 100% to fit Fia r5 regulations, and belive Me when i say that it has been not an easy way to go, many major things had been changed during the way and both sbf and fia technicians are involved in the project.

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    If it was not envolved Mitsubishi, why not built the car in other make (agreement of homologation) to put it worldwide? The car looks competitive

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira View Post
    If it was not envolved Mitsubishi, why not built the car in other make (agreement of homologation) to put it worldwide? The car looks competitive
    M-part the company developing Mirage r5 is the swedish ralliart/mitsubishi parts dealer
    It would be difficoult for them to build on other brand or build on mitsubishi without their involvment dont you think? (-;
    But the strategy can be to get a competitive car with proven reliability before locking a homologation...?

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