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    If they have capable driver like Basso they can win the series. Let's see
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    Unfortunate news about Ford, but fortunately they committed to the R5 which will come out in march!

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    This is a golden opportunity for the FIA. Make R5 the top class in WRC from 2014!

    Ford (weird...), Citroen, Skoda, Subaru, Renault (?)....
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    Quote Originally Posted by EightGear
    This is a golden opportunity for the FIA. Make R5 the top class in WRC from 2014!

    Ford (weird...), Citroen, Skoda, Subaru, Renault (?)....
    This might have been the plan from FIA for some time, and they have probably told the manufacturers some time ago. It has been mentioned on the forum some time ago, i will try to find out where.

    would imo be perfect for teams and drivers from a money perspective, and might give more people the option to win with the same car in national series, in regional and world series !

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    I remember seeing that idea floating about on this forum but the argument against it was that if R5 were to become the top class in rallying it would only drive up the cost of R5 cars.

    If Citroen, VW etc then had to make cars capable of winning the WRC to R5 regs then either a) those particular cars would be more advanced (within the limits of the regulations) than the cars made by Skoda, Peugeot and M-Sport etc. and there would be no level playing field or b) to compete against Citroen and VW on a regional level the Skoda, Peugeot and Ford would have to be as advanced and therefore as expensive.

    Plus the FIA would have to tell Citroen, VW, Hyundai and any other manufacturer that may or may not join the WRC in the near future that their S2000-based WRC cars are now obsolete. Not such an issue for Citroen as they're making an R5 car too but not worth it.

    I think the idea makes sense, it's just not practical to put it into action.

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    There were discussions about prices in the ”R-Classes news” thread and I thought I continue here.

    Looking at this Rally Star - For all the latest motorsport news as well as motorsport events - 2004 HOMOLOGATION REGULATIONS FOR SUPER 2000 KIT-VARIANT (RALLIES) old draft (Word) for S2000 homologation regulations the original intention was indeed to have a 150 000 € price for a complete car.

    7.13 (page 11)
    “The maximum price of a car that is ready to race (i.e. as presented at the start for rallies on asphalt) must not exceed 150.000 Euros (before taxes).”

    Now the kit is 168.000 € (or is it anymore?).

    See also article 3, production criteria for homologation.

    The minimum production is:
    - 1 completely assembled vehicle.
    - 9 sets of all the parts relating to the engine and the shell/bodywork, for changing the Group N model considered into the completely assembled vehicle mentioned above.
    - 1 set of all the transmission parts for changing from two-wheel drive to four-wheel drive, to modify the Group N model considered into the completely assembled vehicle mentioned above.

    - 1 set of all the rear suspension parts for changing the Group N model considered into the completely assembled car mentioned above.
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    This could be the new Fabia to work on the R5 2013 model

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    The attachment doesn't work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek
    The attachment doesn't work.

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    Aha, that picture from Autobild.de I think it will look quite similar, yes.
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