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    Yeah that's not a pretty car. From that front shot it reminds me of the Mirage.
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    FIRST DEVELOPMENT TESTS FOR THE CITROňN C3 R5!


    After a year of research, calculation and design work, CitroŽn Racing is holding the first development tests for the C3 R5 this week.


    An entirely new product intended for customer racing, the CitroŽn C3 R5 aims to become the new benchmark in its category.


    Since 2013, the R5 regulations devised by the FIA have led to the appearance of a new generation of rally cars. Designed for private teams and drivers, these reduced-cost products are often described as "mini-WRCs" due to their technical characteristics: four-wheel drive, 1.6-litre direct injection turbo engine generating about 280bhp, sequential semi-automatic gearbox, etc.



    The success enjoyed by the category also comes down to its universal appeal: the R5s compete in the WRC 2, the ERC and in most of the national championships. The cornerstone of the renewed customer racing line-up at CitroŽn Racing, the C3 R5 will shortly be ready for competitive action!



    "We are reaching an important milestone this week with the first development tests of the car, which is already close to the finished product," explained Yves Matton, CitroŽn Racing Team Principal. "The specifications given to the technical teams are clear: we want the CitroŽn C3 R5 to set new standards in the category, in terms of performance, reliability and controlled operating costs. In order to create an entirely new product, we used all of CitroŽn Racing's experience in the WRC, adding contributions from leading technical suppliers such as Sadev for the transmission and Reiger for the suspension systems. Our works drivers will also be taking part in development of the car: Stťphane Lefebvre and Craig Breen are driving in this first session, along with Yoann Bonato, the current leader of the French Rally Championship."



    Design work on the CitroŽn C3 R5 began about a year ago. In addition to the work done in the design and calculation office, most of the mechanical components have been tested in real conditions, on test mules driven since the start of 2017.



    "For the first outing of the full car, we are already pretty close to the definition that will be offered to customers. The sessions are being held on gravel, on sufficiently varied road surfaces to test the car's robustness and begin fine-tuning the basic set-up," explained Pierre Budar, Development Director, Customer Racing Vehicles. "There is a direct link between the C3 R5 and the C3 WRC: for example, the roll cage of the two cars was designed by the same engineer. Some solutions have been re-used, whilst adapting them to the constraints of the regulations and small-scale production. Similarly, the engine has been developed in-house, based on the unit used on the production model, therefore providing the greatest potential in terms of performance and reliability. We have also chosen to work together with the best suppliers. Overall, we have an even, consistent product, capable of meeting the goals of the customers that choose the CitroŽn C3 R5."



    Following these first test sessions, CitroŽn Racing will be pursuing development of the C3 R5 on both gravel and tarmac, calling upon various drivers with different profiles in order to achieve a genuinely versatile product. FIA homologation is scheduled for 2018.

    http://int-media.citroen.com/en/firs...o%C3%ABn-c3-r5

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    Anyone knows which base engine they used this time?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira View Post



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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek View Post
    Anyone knows which base engine they used this time?
    "Similarly, the engine has been developed in-house, based on the unit used on the production model, therefore providing the greatest potential in terms of performance and reliability."

    But there is no 1.6 petrol in the production C3 range...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    "Similarly, the engine has been developed in-house, based on the unit used on the production model, therefore providing the greatest potential in terms of performance and reliability."

    But there is no 1.6 petrol in the production C3 range...
    Maybe a 1,8 or 2,0 with shorter stroke?

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    Quote Originally Posted by br21 View Post
    Mirage is not R5 car, it's R5-wannabe, and still price is high and level is lower than R5... I know that car quite well...
    If we say 250k Ä for a top notch R5 with both gravel and asfalt setup.
    How much will a Mirage with same equipment cost?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sulland View Post
    If we say 250k € for a top notch R5 with both gravel and asfalt setup.
    How much will a Mirage with same equipment cost?
    You can buy two used ones with spares and container for EUR325,000. http://rallycarsforsale.net/ads/mitsubishi-mirage-ap4/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    "Similarly, the engine has been developed in-house, based on the unit used on the production model, therefore providing the greatest potential in terms of performance and reliability."

    But there is no 1.6 petrol in the production C3 range...
    That's saying pretty much nothing. R5 can use engine from whatever car in the manufacturer's range. It doesn't need to be from the said model.

    Quote Originally Posted by skarderud View Post
    Maybe a 1,8 or 2,0 with shorter stroke?
    Do they have something suitable in production? I'm not that much informed about current PSA engine portfolio.
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    Looking at the Wikipedia page for the Citroen C5 they have a 1.8 and 2.0 petrol, perhaps used in China if not in Europe.

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