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  1. 11th November 2011, 08:54 #501
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    Mikko in the lead! Nice.

    Ogier painfully slow... On SS4, Nikara 4,3s faster than Paddon.
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    The sad thing is if Mikko wins the championship in the way that i said in my last post above, it would only really be down to the team orders on the last 3 rallies, so not a true champion really.
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    Looks like M-sport found some extra speed in the Fiesta? Neither of the 3 Citroens is keeping up with the people they were beating without problems for last half a year? (Loeb-Hirvonen, Ogier-Latvala, Solberg-Ostberg)
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    that's right they are a "team" and thats what teams do, still makes him the champion even if you dont like it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Langdale Forest
    The sad thing is if Mikko wins the championship in the way that i said in my last post above, it would only really be down to the team orders on the last 3 rallies, so not a true champion really.
    agree, but in 2009 there were team orders for Loeb.. altough I think he fully deserve the title because of lost of win in Australia which was Citroen fault.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Langdale Forest
    Mikko Hirvonen could still win the championship if he wins the rally and if Loeb finished 2nd, but Mikko would have to win the power stage and for Loeb to finish 4th or lower on the power stage.
    3rd or lower.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by ridder
    Looks like M-sport found some extra speed in the Fiesta? Neither of the 3 Citroens is keeping up with the people they were beating without problems for last half a year? (Loeb-Hirvonen, Ogier-Latvala, Solberg-Ostberg)
    nothing like that....Ford gave orders to Latvala to stay behind hirvoen the whole rally and Loeb is playing it safe...thus the difference.
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  8. 11th November 2011, 09:05 #508
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    Quote Originally Posted by Langdale Forest
    Mikko Hirvonen could still win the championship if he wins the rally and if Loeb finished 2nd, but Mikko would have to win the power stage and for Loeb to finish 4th or lower on the power stage.
    Loeb can be second or third in the power stage i think... (same points if he is second and hirvonen won the first rally of the season)
    :cool: www.hirvonen-fanclub.com :cool:
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  9. 11th November 2011, 09:08 #509
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    Quote Originally Posted by havk
    agree, but in 2009 there were team orders for Loeb..
    And also this season.
    “It is not winning that’s important, it’s winning big.”
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  10. 11th November 2011, 09:10 #510
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    do you just make this stuff up to stir up the Hirvonen fans...
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