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    Quote Originally Posted by Ucci
    Pluto, with all respect to you, as you have a lot of expirience running a S2000 car, amount up to 90.000 eur is a bit excessive, don't you think?? I will tell different comparison: team TAM-AUTO from Italy rents a Xsara WRC for one TRA rally (120 km of stages/one day) for app. 37.000 Eur. True, IRC race lasts up to three days, with 200-250 competitive km, but neverless WRC is much, much more expensive to run as S2000. Agree??
    That's not comparable because such old Xsara is useful only in village events without real competition (N.O.T.'s words I know). It is completely useless in WRC rallies plus these old WRC cars are usually too unreliable for long international events.

    To make it clear...

    To rent four years old Xsara for WRC rally is waaaay cheaper than to rent DS3 from PH Sport. But it is no option for good result (or at least it was last year, now the Xsara is banned, I now).
    To rent four years old Punto for IRC rally is waaaay cheaper than to rent up-to-date 207 from Kronos. But it's again no option for good result.

    What You can compare is the price for let's say same target - how much it is cheaper to have a car for being in top 5 of IRC than to achieve same in WRC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ucci
    Pluto, with all respect to you, as you have a lot of expirience running a S2000 car, amount up to 90.000 eur is a bit excessive, don't you think?? I will tell different comparison: team TAM-AUTO from Italy rents a Xsara WRC for one TRA rally (120 km of stages/one day) for app. 37.000 Eur. True, IRC race lasts up to three days, with 200-250 competitive km, but neverless WRC is much, much more expensive to run as S2000. Agree??
    To add a few words to Mirek I found some prices:
    Fabia WRC 2005 costs around 200 000 EUR,
    Subaru S11 WRC (2005) costs around 160 000 EUR
    Focus WRC 2003 140 000 EUR
    Cars with similar age to Xsara.

    M-sport is selling latest Focuses around 330 000 EUR, which is much newer car already

    Currently there are a few S2000 cars for sale:
    Fiesta S2000 with latest spec 200 000- 265 000 EUR
    Peugeot 207 latest spec 190 000 - 250 000 EUR

    So, you can see that those very old WRC-s like Xsara are even cheaper to buy than latest S2000 cars right now. Moreover, you can rent those old WRC-s for those village events only, while you can rent S2000 cars for any event (the size of the market and the amount of money available on the market is completely different).
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    Thank's for explanation. Now I'm even more sure, if I hit the seven-lot, I'll rent an old WRC as it is much cheaper, way faster (for an average driver) and more enjoyable, easier to drive....

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    If you started comparing WRCs and S2000 (which is offtopic , sorry for continuing) , although the price is the same, on local Italian village events rent for a 2005+ WRC is surely at least two times more than a 207 S2000 (although, again, these cars are probably not top suited for IRC) ... WRC is WRC

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