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6th September 2011, 17:21 #11
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Originally Posted by Juha_Koo
There were also at the time plenty of witnesses.
The thing is it is not like Colin was unaware that he had crashed CARS---the thing he had ages more experience driving-----plenty of times. And he had of course seen what piles of scrap rediculously strong rally cars turn into with just a little error.
And anybody who has ever just looked at helicopters knows how lightly built, and how simply exposed you----and any unfortunate passengers are.
It doesn't take much intelligence or imagination to think about the consequences of a major blunder in a helicopter...
If he had killed only himself in a hot-dogging accident I would not criticize, I have had several personal and family friends die in light aircraft accidents.
But to kill his son and another boy just showing off so much he lost control.....I really had no words then and no words now strong enough.
(For a kid 5 or 6 or 8 just flying in a light plane is exciting enough---I can recall when I did at that age---BIG EYES!!!!)John Vanlandingham
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6th September 2011, 18:17 #12
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If he was a rich guy with a different name everybody would wish him good riddance to hell for leading 2 minors and an adult to a horrible death...
and rightly so...
I feel sorry that such a legend of our sport had such a personality.
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6th September 2011, 18:32 #13
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Originally Posted by N.O.T
This thread is in my opinion absolutely pointless!
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6th September 2011, 18:57 #14
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Originally Posted by Iskald
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6th September 2011, 19:09 #15
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Yes he's dead, but that doesn't mean lessons should not be learned. Flying without a licence is simply unacceptable, but the price he and his family paid for it was far too high.
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6th September 2011, 21:28 #16
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Originally Posted by themoOriginally Posted by themo
What were they trying to do by releasing that? Teach him a lesson? Good luck with that one.
Originally Posted by Iskald
Thumbs up for Colin Mcrae
Gone but NEVER forgotten.
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6th September 2011, 21:43 #17
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I agree that if he was not licensed to do so than he should never have been at the controls of that aircraft....period. The manner in which he is alleged to have been operating it becomes moot at that point-he never should have been operating it to start with, not at any speed or altitude.
Mark is right-we all can learn from these things-and agencies like the FAI there or NTSB here in the states are there to do just that-find out what caused a crash then report it so all of us can learn from it. So I have no problem with them releasing their findings, there are lessons to be learned from them.
All that being said everyone who is so ready to bash him forget 2 very important points.
1) He's Human-and all humans do some dumb things every once in a while. We make mistakes. Show me one who doesn't and I'll show you a Cyborg. Should he have used better judgement? Sure-you'll never get an argument from me that says other wise.
2) He's dead-he paid the ultimate price for his transgressions. There is nothing more that a court can do to him that's any worse than that. I hate the fact that he took his young son and a friend with him, they didn't deserve to die. But I hate the FACT, not the person. "Hating" on him isnt going to change anything,it's not going to bring the other victims back. So really, about the only "pointless" posts in this thread are the one's that denigrate him as a person. He was a great driver that made a stupid human mistake, and paid for it with his life. And yes, while making that mistake his actions led to the deaths of other people, which makes it most unfortunate. Had he survived the crash himself he would have been guilty of neglegent homicide-a crime that in most jurisdictions would have had a moderate prison sentence attached to it. As such he paid a much heavier price than that.
That said, I'm sure everyone has an opinion. Everyone is free to voice their opinion. I applaud almost everyone for not directly going after another poster in voicing their opinion. Go after the post, not the poster. A few have gotten close to that line, so be careful. Other than tha good job so far#4 2014 Sprint Cup Champion, 2007 Daytona 500,2003 Brickyard 400,2x Coke 600,2014 Southern 500 Champ: 962 starts,90 wins, 345 T5s, 544 T10s, 44 poles, 2x NNS champ
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6th September 2011, 22:05 #18
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Originally Posted by tfpAja kovaa Pena.
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6th September 2011, 22:30 #19
As sad as it is McRae was always a bit reckless in the cars and it shouldn't be too surprising he was reckless elsewhere. I can't say it changes any of my opinions other than to emphasize the consistency of the man.
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6th September 2011, 22:38 #20
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Man is dead and that's it.
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