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Thread: 4 degrees of camber
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30th August 2011, 16:06 #31
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Originally Posted by Bagwan
EDIT - numpty alert - I've just read the article - 4 degrees max from the horses mouth!!!!Opinions are like ar5eholes, everyone has one.
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30th August 2011, 16:11 #32
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Originally Posted by Bagwan
In other words, Pirelli couldn't guarantee the safety of its tyres throughout the entire envelope that the FIA has declared legal.
While I think Pirelli have done a great job this season on this particular topic they messed up but they are doing a great PR job of covering up.
Of course the counter argument is that at no point were the tyres unsafe despite being used outside the camber angle recommended by Pirelli, there probably wasn't even a drop off in performance.
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30th August 2011, 16:21 #33
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Would this all have been avoided if the teams were allowed more testing ?
Feedback is essential for both the teams and the tire maker .
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30th August 2011, 16:28 #34
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Originally Posted by BagwanOpinions are like ar5eholes, everyone has one.
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30th August 2011, 16:39 #35
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Originally Posted by BagwanRule 1 of the forum, always accuse anyone who disagrees with you of bias.I would say that though.
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30th August 2011, 18:35 #36
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Originally Posted by Malbec
Just because a regulation says you can go to a maximum 5 degree, doesn't mean the tyre manufacturer is going to produce one that can go to that extreme. The reason the regulation limits the camber is to stop cars running on sidewalls and I would also imagine it goes back to stopping manufacturers producing round footprint tyres like a motorbike.
This is a good insight. McLaren, Ferrari followed Pirelli recommendations | Formula 1 Blog
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30th August 2011, 19:00 #37
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Originally Posted by Bagwan
I would go as far as to say RBR exploiting the safety concerns to manipulate as much control over damage limitation by arguing over a grey area.The world according to Taki Inoue: https://mobile.twitter.com/takiinoue/st ... 7249326080
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30th August 2011, 19:15 #38
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Originally Posted by Bagwan
But it was RBR making the biggest noise, not a collectve issue as was say Indy 2005.
I don't remember Kimi making a fuss after his race was compromised with the no tyre change rules in Nurburgring 2005 and ended up in a massive shunt.The world according to Taki Inoue: https://mobile.twitter.com/takiinoue/st ... 7249326080
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4th September 2011, 00:30 #39
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Last I checked, driving around a glorified piece of plastic with wheels 200 miles per hour isn't exactly a "safe" thing to do. Redbull obviously would have changed the camber if they had the opportunity to do ith without their drivers having to start from the pitlane. But the FIA painted them in a corner, and just like you expect out of people who driver 200 mile an hour pieces of plastic, they put their nuts on the table and drove with it. The reason this happened was the severe lack of dry weather testing.
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4th September 2011, 02:20 #40
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Just curious, did the FIA control the weather at Spa? The teams that had issues painted themselves into a corner IMO. They were hoping to dodge the regulations in the interest of "safety" but that "safety" wasn't a large enough issue to cause them to lose grid positions in the interest of maintaining said safety.
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