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26th July 2011, 12:33 #31
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Sebastien Ogier earlier in the year (Mexico?) when he ran into a ditch on the final stage.
Tír gan teanga, tír gan anam
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3rd August 2011, 08:31 #32
I think I would be charitable to Brabham at Monaco 70, in that someone like Rindt homing in might be said to have forced the error. The unforced error that year was not putting enough juice in the tank at Brands being passed on the last lap again.
Kris Meeke got fired -PSG so terrified they quit!
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3rd August 2011, 09:02 #33Originally Posted by Garry Walker
Senna not to blame for Monaco '88
Sunday, 21, May, 2006, 16:00
McLaren chief mechanic Neil Trundle has shed new light on one of the most notorious upsets in Formula 1 history.
In an interview in this month's F1 Racing magazine (on sale next week), Trundle revealed that Ayrton Senna's famous crash in the 1988 Monaco Grand Prix was probably the result of a slow puncture rather than a driver error.
Senna had absolutely dominated the Monaco weekend and was heading for a certain victory when he understeered into the Portier barrier with just 11 laps remaining.
The legendary Brazilian was distraught afterwards, but Trundle reckons he was not actually to blame.
"We still suspect he had a slow puncture in one of the rear tyres," Trundle revealed.
"The car was sliding around, but he stuck with it rather than changing the tyre."
The Monaco accident has been cited as a turning point in Senna's career, and Trundle agrees that it had a profound effect on the thoughtful Brazilian.
"The accident changed him," said Trundle.
"It made him even deeper and more committed."
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22nd November 2013, 15:34 #34
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Re: The worst examples of Choking in Motorsports.
Webber slamming the title to smithereens at Korea in 10. He may've still had a great chance to win it afterwards, but he lost his mojo after that crash. The best example was putting in his worst qualifying performance in the title showdown at Abu Dhabi. The season opened up for him to win, Vettel crashing often and suffering problems, Alonso was sloppy in the first half and in Spa, Hamilton threatening then taking himself out of contention, driving a far superior car, no reliability problems, it was all there for him. It was like John Terry slipping up just before the penalty kick in the CL final!
Special mention to Helio Castroneves not winning this year's Indycar title, when he was leading late. I don't follow the season closely, but I was aware of his strong position. C'mon man! You've been driving for Penske for 14 years now, and you've never won a title! They don't vote for you to win a title like DWTS! Just poor.
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17th December 2013, 17:20 #35
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Originally Posted by 555-04Q2May the forza be with you
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26th December 2013, 04:43 #36
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Re: The worst examples of Choking in Motorsports.
Brabham at Monoco might be the choke with the shortest distance to the finish, but it's hard to beat JR Hildebrand crashing in turn four of lap 200 at Indianapolis.
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26th December 2013, 16:47 #37
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Re: The worst examples of Choking in Motorsports.
From a comment on another forum I posted:
In Jack’s defense, he mentions in his autobiography that with 5 laps to go “I had the most shocking run of slow cars that I have ever encountered. On one lap alone I must have lost 7 or 8 seconds.”
He does acknowledge his mistake, one of the few made in a long and illustrious career; he is just peeved it was beamed into “everybody’s living room in England and America.” He also credits Rindt’s last laps as “simply fabulous driving under any circumstances.”
Rather poor behaviour from back markers and marshals that day.
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29th December 2013, 16:46 #38
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Re: The worst examples of Choking in Motorsports.
Believe it or not, I saw it live on ABC, or at least it was delayed and I didn't already know the result. I was watching it with about 50 other guys in a boy's schools dormitory (I was like 12) and everyone was pretty stunned with the quick turn of events. It turned me into a Rindt fan, though I already liked Brabham.
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29th December 2013, 17:38 #39
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Re: The worst examples of Choking in Motorsports.
Originally Posted by Doc Austin
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Re: The worst examples of Choking in Motorsports.
Originally Posted by anthonyvop
With F1, from my own observation, it would be Elio(?? spelling) Salazar punting (rear-ending) Piquet's Brabham-BMW entering the first chicane at Hochenheim just moments after Nelson passed him, at the 1982 German GP. Good win for Tambay I must say, along for team Ferrari, considering the circumstances of losing their two top drivers within a span of 3 months.
... then again, the bits of Senna and Prost coming together on a couple of occasions is another example of 'choking' IMHO, if not absolute disrespect for the sport and its fans.FIDO - Forget It, Drive On
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